Mass Effect 3: The Return of the Shepard - Forbes

solinvictus01 · 2012-05-24T14:27:03.007096+00:00

Frankly I feel the same way as Forbes. Yeah, Williams is something to look at but almost nothing that comes out of her mouth is intelligent. She's like the Worf of Mass Effect 3 - you constantly have to contradict her stupidity. She's brash, she's partially why her squad died on Eden Prime. She racist and has no diplomatic skills which is a pain in the butt when it comes to civilians or races. After a while looks is not all you need in the end, you need someone with a brain as well.

Mordin and Garrus are far better bros for reasons we all know. For love interests, I think Tali (who helped you out in the beginning at great risk to herself) or Liara who dropped everything to assist you are far better love interests. Even Miranda is at least smart and has a heart underneath her cold exterior.

the_wizard · 2012-05-24T14:01:55.843034+00:00

Unfortunately no, I believe the last one was early this month. Usually there are posters are notices at your local 7-Eleven.

crashin · 2012-05-24T14:01:23.155412+00:00

Generally I think these political playing cards do more harm than good. Demanding apologies 4-5 times a year and getting it just weakens the whole thing. Makes it meaningless and creates resentment on all sides for what? So a couple of politicians can grab a few votes by flying on nationalism.

I'm tired of being tricked by that kind of game.

crashin · 2012-05-24T13:58:31.004102+00:00

As this link shows, these are apologies from the Japanese government. What you do not and refuse to acknowledge is that each apology requires the unanimous approval of the cabinet and obviously they are only read by one person not a whole chorus because that would be silly.
The current Japanese government is different from the previous Imperial Japanese government. Why refuse to acknowledge that?
The Asian Women's Fund is exactly consolidated Japanese government action to affect the comfort women. You keep pretending it either didn't happen or that it wasn't set up by the Japanese government.

Your problem is ultimately that you can't have 100% of the Japanese populace to agree on something, you're unsatisfied with 99% that you've gotten that agree that WW2 was the shame of Japan because there is still less than 1% of Japanese dissenters but can't offer a concrete suggestion on what can be done about that 1%. But this is what happens in a democracy with freedom of speech, there are going to be nutjobs that you don't like. There are Neo-Nazi in Germany that don't believe they should have ever apologized to Israel but they only make a tiny fraction of the populace, yet here you are essentially blowing up the Japanese equivalents. This does NOT negate the apologies of the vast majority to other nations and it shouldn't here.

How many straws can you grasp?

crashin · 2012-05-24T13:53:47.308101+00:00

Did you read this link or not because it's absolutely contrary to everything you're saying.

the_wizard · 2012-05-23T15:09:46.670709+00:00

I've got some. Fantasy Frontier expo in NTU, happens 4 times a year.

Here you go: http://www.flickr.com/photos/seansu/sets/72157627316308784/with/6006498468/

Beartholomew · 2012-05-23T14:52:05.838176+00:00

Some? I'd say most people never back down even if they know they are wrong. At least that's the way it is in Asia. Here in Taiwan you can have unlimited appeals, so this small team of overzealous state prosecutors have been charging the same 3 guys for a murder they didn't commit after 20+ years in court and failing time after time because they are 'losing face'.

crashin · 1 day

Yeah I agree. What else can the Japanese government really do at this point? Since the 1940's they've apologized and handed money and made monuments and put it in history textbooks and museums. There needs to be a clear demand, not "we will pretend we don't hear any apologies and anything else" on the part of the descendants of the victims because anyone educated on the matter will know that's a lie. The ball is on the court of the descendants of the long-dead victims and they should act on it instead of trying to use it as political playing cards.

It's like whenever Israel today demands free money from Germany and then uses the Holocaust card. I think today's Germans don't need to pay for that kind of thing anymore.

crashin · 1 day

I am indeed responding to claims you made. I will be quoting you below:

When I consider on top of that the fact that WWII was basically a culmination of what they've been doing for thousands of years in the past and that the Japanese government shows no signs of repenting for their actions, as someone who lives in a country neighboring Japan it makes me rather nervous. Happy 7th sexagennial of the Imjin invasions.

Okay see, there's your problem. First you incorrectly said it's something the Japanese were doing for thousands of years - is that based off anything or a huge misunderstanding of the Bushido code? I know Iris Chang says that in her book but that was thoroughly debunked by actual scholars on the Nanjing Massacre such as Joshua A Fogel.

Then you claim that Japan has never repented... and I put a link that they did many times. If you live in a neighboring country of Japan, I'd be surprised if you were ignorant of this information - which is why I came to conclude that you might have been somewhat deceptive about it or you know something I don't.

The fact that the Japanese government doesn't bother to stop or prevent textbook reforms, the fact that territorial disputes continue and are endorsed by government officials, the fact that there was no concerted effort at establishing an official stance or reimbursing afflicted parties (such as comfort women)

(I prove that it's false by providing references, especially the comfort women part so you make a rather interesting about-face...)

That being said, yes, the Japanese government offered money to the comfort women, which many (the ones who live here, at least) have turned down.

Okay so did you not know this (which is incredible if you're in South Korea) or you knew this but was spreading falsehoods anyway? This is HistoryPorn - historical facts kind of matters here. Since you mention the Imjin invasion in your first post, you already know that the South Korean government took the money intended for comfort women and used it for infrastructure, such as for the nice subway system in Seoul. The money that the South Korean comfort women rejected was from civilian funds.

As a tangent, I'm not even really comfortable with the phrase comfort women, because quite a few of these women actually don't qualify as such since they were forced into prostitution, not voluntarily. However if monuments, monetary pay, historical remembrance, and apologies don't count; what punishment should be doled out to the Japanese and what reward should be doled out to the victims? Remember quite a few ex Japanese Imperial soldiers came out with lots of important details that could have been easily covered up, such as on Unit 731 (that happened in closed doors, it wasn't a public exhibit so at the time not so many Chinese even knew it happened until after the war) their ancestors have contributed to huge civilian funds designed to recompense and apologize to the victims and their families so it can't even be said the soldiers did nothing either. Now most of them are dead due to age or other factors, what kind of punishment should be given? Should their families pay? Should someone die? I don't see what else they could do.

Same thing for the USA, I lived in Manhattan. Should we return Manhattan to the Indians? Should people kill themselves for the crimes of their ancestors? Should we jail random people? What kind of punishment should the USA do for atrocities that occurred in the essential theft of Manhattan island other than apologize and try to recompense people? How about the American war against the Phillippines? Or how about the Mai Lai massacre?

Hakker · 1 day

Whoops wrong conversion.

ldscr · 1 day

You are not all the students at NYU. At least 15 of my classmates were trust fund babies. I used to hang out at this girl's apartment - as in she owned the whole building in the East Side overlooking Central Park. It was a gift of sorts.

runswithpaper · 1 day

It's the hip bone. This is normal in skinny girls.

PaperInFire · 1 day

Actually chances are you will. This is a brilliant exception. This Israeli was basically consigning himself to death. Carrying someone down a steep treacherous mountain with little oxygen yourself in harsh weather conditions when you can barely make it yourself is a death sentence for many.

themindset · 1 day

He says he rents, he has no land, just lives off the land, he is as nomadic in a sense as your ancestors.

idonotexist12345 · 1 day

It's a combination of both.

JustMosh · 1 day

For anyone who doesn't know, it's now Michael Bay's Teenage Alien Ninja Turtles...

Hakker · 1 day

The real outrage is that this is $60...

crashin · 1 day

I remind you, that's why there is threaded comments on Reddit, so I can respond to your topic rather than only talk about what OP posted. I found what you wrote to be false and provided well sourced Wikipedia links that you either didn't read or are outright denying.

Anyway I was responding to your statements so I'm not talking about bayonetting a baby, I was talking about your false allegation that the Japanese didn't apologize, covered it up, among other false allegations. If I see a wikileaks video about something atrocious the USA did, does this mean it's okay for me to spread easily disproved lies about the USA? Should no one be allowed to respond to me in the context of my message? Should I get mad when someone disproves me and then I'll be like "But but, it's a wikileaks video" even though it has nothing to do with my false allegation?

If Japan has a long and very well documented history of not admitting to their past atrocities, prove that it is widespread? I think you're overblowing it like the way some people think that Japan has used panty machines everywhere. Even the USA has the same history of not admitting to their past atrocities - sometimes even having to be sued to do so. The problem is in Japan it's limited to 0.039% of their schools and even then it's a national debate. In the USA omitting the atrocities of the Philippine American war is seen in the vast majority of schools due to the power of the Texas Board of Education but there is no national debate over this.

gphhawkins · 1 day

The Catholic church surely doesn't pick and choose morals when they openly claim that they will not report child sex abuse to the authorities committed by their own members.

crashin · 1 day

So basically what you're saying is, "Yeah I'm wrong, but here's this red-herring (another fallacy) that I hope you'll be distracted with". What can I expect next, the Chewbacca defense?

Your attempt to dig dirt by siding with a Chinese government apologist is hilarious. But I'll entertain you here, we were talking about democide which is the murder of innocent civilians. The fact of the matter is the Chinese government up till that point had murdered over 10 million innocent Chinese civilians, while the Japanese had not neared that number at all - I had cited Professor R. J. Rummel of the University of Hawaii, he is credited with creating the term democide. PandaBearShenyu's link included soldiers which is not included in democide. His failure to understand the meaning of democide is why he was all outraged. The reason why democide does not include soldiers is simply because we expect soldiers to shoot at other soldiers but we generally do not expect them to indiscriminately kill unarmed civilians. It's important to look at this link here which shows that Chinese government at that point was second only to the Nazi's in terms of democide..

The fact that we're still playing makes me suspect your ego and emotions is bigger than your logical conscience. Man up and learn something new instead of making excuses on why you should continue spreading hearsay, especially after you've admitted that it's hogwash. Can you live with your personal character being like that?

crashin · 1 day

This is what we call an ad hominem attack, which is a logical fallacy. Technically speaking I could be Adolf Hitler himself, but I'm not wrong at debunking your claim.

It's easy to take things out of context, you do realize that PandaBearShenyu is basically a self-admitted a Chinese government apologist right? He's even defended his government on the necessity of killing civilians for the Tienanmen Square massacre. You can't pick and choose an allegation and pretend it must be right while ignoring context. In response, PandaBearShenyu's link includes soldiers, which breaks the definition of democide. If I remember correctly, I made a statement that the Chinese Nationalist government has murdered 10 million Chinese innocent civilians up to that point, which was more than the Japanese government killed, and quoted Rummel who is the foremost professor on democide - he is credited with creating that term in fact. I might have also mentioned that Chiang Kai Shek's premature withdrawal allowed massacres to happen. Chiang Kai Shek was commonly nicknamed "Peanut Head" by US generals for being a coward who was interested in profiting from US government aid.

Anyway, keep being stubborn.

crashin · 1 day

You basically said it is your opinion that the Japanese never apologized or gave any money even though they did. It is also your feelings that they had major textbook controversies even though in reality it affected only 0.039% of all the total schools in Japan. Even after you're corrected, all you say is, "Well this is what I believe so it's true" even though the links I gave you clearly say otherwise.

Then you end with threatening to place ad hominem attacks.

Do you see why I don't think you make any sense?

crashin · 2 days

denials and omissions by prominent members of Japanese society.

If you can argue that Westboro Baptist Church and Michelle Bachmann are prominent members of US society, then you can make the same argument about these fringe crazies in Japanese society that most people don't respect. It's why they only have 5 seats out of 722 in Japan's legislature and even less elsewhere. But I mean it's part of democracy right? There's always some nutjob that people will follow.

What is also correct is that even in the last decade those actions by the Japanese were minimialized and have been since WWII.

I already sent you the link about the textbook controversy and other details no? So you know that only 0.039% of school textbooks minimized the war. You should also know that virtually all the Japanese museums do not paint the Japanese as the good guys in WW2 and is why the public doesn't even trust the JSDF as a result. Unit 731 didn't operate in public and most of their victims were dead, so it was actually the Japanese that released much of what went on.

Anyway we must agree on a criteria otherwise it's just opinion. Personally I disagree with collective punishment as well as collective guilt. The same way I don't think we should continue paying Israel with blank checks, the same reason why I don't think Germany or Japan need continue their overtures after they've paid so much. I honestly don't know what else they could do unless someone wants to have modern day Japanese to grovel and kill themselves for something they had no part in or something violent.

I also disagree with purging the fringe elements in Japanese society, as much as I hate the Westboro Baptist Church and crazies in the Tea Party, I don't think we have the right to kill or remove them.

crashin · 2 days

You claimed that the Japanese never apologized and that there was a textbook controversy.

I proved otherwise with links to credible sources.

You then changed the goalposts to saying that the Japanese never did anything for the comfort women.

I proved otherwise with links to credible sources.

You did not provide any sources and said you were basing all this on your feelings.

I rest my case.

freshasapoppy · 2 days

Nah, I think they did the opposite. Remember they are evilly responding to Mass Effect's ending, covering 'youth topics' including comics like XKCD and Oatmeal. The fact is we gave Forbes a ton of traffic recently. They'll adjust later and reach newer audiences as was the plan from the start.

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