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Over 1 million people will descend on Washington DC for the largest "Occupy" protest ever! OCCUPY CONGRESS January 17th, 2012 (self.politics)
submitted 5 months ago* by Sgt--Hulka
Congress starts their 2012 legislative session on January 17th. We should occupy their OUR city and insist that they start doing their fucking jobs. OccupyCongress
Facebook Page just went up.
[–]The_Boner 991 points992 points993 points 5 months ago
This needs to happen. With a 9% approval rating of congress the support is definitley there, it just needs to be organized well.
[–]CelebornX 763 points764 points765 points 5 months ago
Yes, let's do this! Everyone gather around The_Boner!
[–]tineyeit 65 points66 points67 points 5 months ago
So we're meeting at the Washington memorial?
[–]The-Strike 22 points23 points24 points 5 months ago
FYI, Monument. Not a memorial. In fact, with all the shit in DC, its actually the ONLY monument. Everything else is a memorial.
[–]frozetoze 11 points12 points13 points 5 months ago
Damn you and your like-minded thought process... have an upvote
[–]taterred 465 points466 points467 points 5 months ago
The_Boner will need protection.
[–]smthngclvr 423 points424 points425 points 5 months ago
The_Boner must stand tall.
[–]Dlongsnapper 380 points381 points382 points 5 months ago
The_Boner will rise again!
[–]allintensivepurposes 352 points353 points354 points 5 months ago
The_Boner shall come again!
[–]stiverbr 328 points329 points330 points 5 months ago
The_Boner's conviction can be found deep inside us all!
[–]AnOnionsOpinion 299 points300 points301 points 5 months ago
The_Boner grows with agitation!
[–]Dlongsnapper 330 points331 points332 points 5 months ago
Our support makes The_Boner swell with pride
[–]The_Condom 250 points251 points252 points 5 months ago
I shall protect The_Boner form the dark hole of Congress.
[–]Redspider93 77 points78 points79 points 5 months ago*
I'm gonna fuck you in the ass.
[–]HungryHippo1492 24 points25 points26 points 5 months ago
I will stand firm with The_Boner!
[–]dsizzler 46 points47 points48 points 5 months ago
oh reddit :)
[–]megalodon90 51 points52 points53 points 5 months ago
Prepare yourselves Congress, The_Boner is coming.
[–]castellammare 63 points64 points65 points 5 months ago
I've always had a problem with this "approval rating" system. It's kind of flawed, because we're not really supposed to "approve" of the entirety of Congress. How many people think Congress is doing a lousy job, but support their Congressperson or Senators? It's always those "other" representatives that we have a problem with. Conservatives in Texas and Iowa have a problem with the representatives from New York and California and vice versa. If we disapprove of Congress because it doesn't uniformly match our views, then that is not a valid reason for our disapproval.
Are there legitimate reasons for the low approval rating of Congress? Absolutely; the lack of cooperation on both sides being one. But when one side, or even both sides, cooperate, then both sides are angry and still disapprove of Congress. It's a no-win situation, and polls like these "Yes or No" questions without delving a little deeper don't seem to hold much weight. Thoughts?
[–]Sirspender 55 points56 points57 points 5 months ago
That's why a 50% approval rating is actually quite good. However, 8%, which is the current approval rating, is good in no one's books.
[–]dwaxe 25 points26 points27 points 5 months ago
It's lower than herpes.
[–][deleted] 15 points16 points17 points 5 months ago
Well, who the fuck approves of herpes?
[–]seltaeb4 39 points40 points41 points 5 months ago
Pharmaceutical corporations.
[–]dwaxe 28 points29 points30 points 5 months ago
More than approve of congress.
[–]ROK247 2 points3 points4 points 5 months ago
you can live with herpes. a shitty congress will destroy our country.
[–]Kind_of_Blue 4 points5 points6 points 5 months ago*
We can say the same thing about the Occupy movement. This is why is it's stupid to criticise it for not having a coherent message and a list of demands.
[–]johnnyhala 91 points92 points93 points 5 months ago
Absolutely. It is definitely time to move the focus away from the symbol of Wall Street that is the source of the problem, to Washington, where it will be fixed.
[–]tbasherizer 40 points41 points42 points 5 months ago
Economy determines politics. Wall street is the center of the American economy, so they were actually spot on.
[–]maxxusflamus 28 points29 points30 points 5 months ago
Exactly what should wallstreet do?
I'd really like to know what OWS expects private citizens to do. You can't force people to be moral or good or kind, etc.
[–]ragault 18 points19 points20 points 5 months ago
Exactly. Congress is supposed to be people we elect to be OUR voice. So occupying congress should help to remind them what their jobs are, hopefully.
[–]rytis 16 points17 points18 points 5 months ago
awesome, on Monday, January 23, 2012, the Roe v Wade March for Life hits town. this is going to be a great meet-up!
[–]TheCapn 270 points271 points272 points 5 months ago
Did 1 million people RSVP or something?
[–]Sgt--Hulka[S] 327 points328 points329 points 5 months ago
Well we needed some kind of figure to tell the caterer. We didn't want to short anyone a ham biscuit.
[–]GeneralMalaise 41 points42 points43 points 5 months ago
but seriously speaking, is over one million people a real estimate or did you just make that up?
[–]ThatFuckingGuy 17 points18 points19 points 5 months ago
Do you even know how much is one million people?
[–]The_Rakist 91 points92 points93 points 5 months ago
I'm thinking it's some where around 1 million people.
[–]thegreedyturtle 16 points17 points18 points 5 months ago
The largest march on the mall is supposed to have been the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moratorium_to_End_the_War_in_Vietnam, with an estimated 500,000 people.
Wikipedia source so ymmv.
[–]The_Rakist 13 points14 points15 points 5 months ago
I can't argue with the greedy turtle and that fucking guy.
[–]hotboxpizza 3 points4 points5 points 5 months ago
Made up. That's my opinion, but who am I to say...
[–]buckyVanBuren 115 points116 points117 points 5 months ago
You're going to have meat at a #OWS protest??
Well, fluttering fingers down to you buddy!
[–]fido5150 22 points23 points24 points 5 months ago
I hear there will also be a full-service menu consisting of endangered species.
I've always wondered what Bengal Brisket tasted like.
[–]Chairboy 19 points20 points21 points 5 months ago
If it tastes even half as good as condor, I'm there.
[–]sarcasmandsocialism 41 points42 points43 points 5 months ago
So far 11 people have liked the facebook page, so if you convert that from internet numbers to real life, that means a million people will be there...
[–]vetro 469 points470 points471 points 5 months ago
People kept saying, "They should be occupying DC, not Wall Street." Well...why not both?
[–]PippyLongSausage 221 points222 points223 points 5 months ago
Por que no los dos?
[–]egmont 94 points95 points96 points 5 months ago
Si se puede!
[–]jtylerjones 81 points82 points83 points 5 months ago
Si!
[–]DarkLightx19 44 points45 points46 points 5 months ago
Por que no Zoidberg?
[–]FamousFool 36 points37 points38 points 5 months ago
Occupy ALL the things!
[–]Sir_FartAlot 11 points12 points13 points 5 months ago
It is going to be too cold
[–]annaliee 5 points6 points7 points 5 months ago
not if sir fart alot goes and heats things up!
[–]dasstrooper 2 points3 points4 points 5 months ago
they are occupying both
[–]dhavranek88 0 points1 point2 points 5 months ago
Challenge Accepted.
[–]lgodsey 126 points127 points128 points 5 months ago
insist that they start doing their fucking jobs
Great. What specifically do you want them to do? See, it's super that you're all jazzed about the protest, but whenever you make an occupy thread, you need to list your grievances. That way when the US conservative media inevitably dismisses the entire movement as unfocused whining, you'll be able to cite the specific issues you want addressed. Stuff like this that I just stole from some web page:
Complete bans on federal political contributions, replaced by public campaign financing.
Reversal of the “Citizens United v. FEC” Supreme Court decision.
Combating Washington’s “revolving door.”
Bans on gifts to federal officials.
Tax reform – eliminating special carve-outs and increasing progressiveness.
Single-payer health care.
Increased environmental regulation.
Reduction of the national debt through a progressive income tax and elimination of corporate handouts.
Federal job-training programs.
Student loan debt forgiveness.
Immigration policy, including amnesty for illegals.
Recalling the U.S. military globally.
Education mandates and teacher pay.
Massive expansion of public works projects.
Spurring China to end currency manipulation.
Reenactment of the Glass-Steagall Act.
Refinance all underwater mortgages at 1% interest rate.
One-year freeze on all foreclosures.
Free air time for all political candidates who gather sufficient signatures.
Immediate withdrawal of all troops from Iraq and Afghanistan.
What do you stand for? All of these? None of these? Something completely different? Whatever it is, learn the issues, choose what you stand for and make sure to share these points in detail when you post threads or protest or talk to people in a coffee shop.
[–]12characters 11 points12 points13 points 5 months ago
If you ran on that platform I would vote for you.
[–]gnaritas 17 points18 points19 points 5 months ago*
I agree with much of this list except...
No, removal of bankruptcy protection on student loan debt; nothing more. It should be treated like any other debt.
Why reward people for making bad decisions; if they can't afford their house or don't think it's worth taking the loss in value, short sell it or foreclose it and move the fuck on and find a rental you can afford. Take the hit in your credit like a man.
[–]sbryce 8 points9 points10 points 5 months ago
If student loans are going to be made more difficult, the amount of grants needs to increase. I would love to see the college grant level close to what Canada and other countries have.
We want educated people. I'd rather have a genius working at Mcdonald's than an idiot in the White House.
[–]zachsandberg 2 points3 points4 points 5 months ago
This should be shouted from the rooftops.
[–]daemano 3 points4 points5 points 5 months ago
Here goes the personal responsibility argument again. OK one more time...
2006: If my neighbor has his mortgage foreclosed on and it takes a while to resell the house, then I will likely lose SOME equity (value of) in my home. Since the market is still "ok" there is hope I will recover some equity when/if that foreclosed home sells.
then...
2008: my neighbor and now 3 other families on the block have had their mortgages foreclosed on both legally (default) and illegally (robo-signing).
I will lose ALL equity (value of) my home due to no fault of mine.
BAM, I'm instantly underwater at 6-8% with no hope of recovering any equity because I now live in a neighborhood with several foreclosed homes that will not sell in it. Values will not recover until those homes are occupied with buyers. Buyers will not come because mortgages are hard to get and unemployment is rampant.
People are walking away from their mortgages and taking the credit hit "like a man" left and right, but guess what, this only further drives down home values for reliable (non-defaulted) buyers. The foreclosure cycle forces them to have to consider the nuclear option of foreclosure for themselves. Considering that most people used home equity as their primary method of investment for the last 30 years, all these foreclosures are what's killing the US economy right now.
Better option, refinance all underwater mortgages at the same rate big banks get to borrow money from the fed (<1%). Keep people in their homes and stop the foreclosure/equity draining cycle.
[–]InferiousX 7 points8 points9 points 5 months ago
This really needs to be up higher.
[–]lambinvoker 8 points9 points10 points 5 months ago
Why is this not the top comment?
[–]AmericanDerp 73 points74 points75 points 5 months ago*
Poster for Occupy Congress, January 17, 2012: http://i.imgur.com/fdmCL.jpg
EDIT: x-posted to r/ows here:
http://www.reddit.com/r/occupywallstreet/comments/mwgum/january_17th_2012_bring_1000000_tents_occupy/
[–]jlowry 62 points63 points64 points 5 months ago
Should have photoshopped this pic: http://i.imgur.com/CG9kp.jpg
Bring 1,000,000 Blankets and Heaters
[–]lingual_panda 62 points63 points64 points 5 months ago
Oh shit. It never occurred to me that it snows in the Capitol in winter.
Signed, SoCal native
[–]Joker1337 62 points63 points64 points 5 months ago
It never snows in the Capitol (unless the roof is broken), it snows in the capital.
[–]lingual_panda 10 points11 points12 points 5 months ago
Thanks for the correction. I always get that confused. Why is there even a difference again?
[–]masteroftrolls 66 points67 points68 points 5 months ago
English major here. We all speak a fucking stupid language.
[–]popiyo[] 69 points70 points71 points 5 months ago
An English major! Shouldn't you be at wor...oh, right, never mind.
[–]shamusoconner 28 points29 points30 points 5 months ago
Bring 1,000,000 TENTS.
Ooooohhh I like.
[–]herbalism 40 points41 points42 points 5 months ago
and some gas masks...
[–]Shinma 30 points31 points32 points 5 months ago
Pepper spray would probably create a nice, warming sensation to offset the bitter cold.
[–]Heiwanshang 2 points3 points4 points 5 months ago
Seems a bit excessive to me. Can't anyone share a tent?
[–]headless_bourgeoisie 16 points17 points18 points 5 months ago
I will be done with my college degree in a week. I'm seriously thinking of selling everything, flying to DC, and joining that protest. Real change takes real sacrifice, does it not? Who's with me?
[–][deleted] 6 points7 points8 points 5 months ago
You have my sword.
[–]LBORBAH 21 points22 points23 points 5 months ago
make sure you save the date with the DC authorities before Glenn Beck does.
[–]purpleish 49 points50 points51 points 5 months ago
We're gonna need a lot of pepper spray.
-Police everywhere.
[–]Puck_U_Madame 31 points32 points33 points 5 months ago
If I could... I would be there. Dissent is the Highest form of Patriotism! Get it done! God Speed!
[–]Weed_O_Whirler 170 points171 points172 points 5 months ago
Making the "over 1 Million people" claim can't help you and can only hurt you. Let's be honest, most likely 1 million people won't be there. The famed "million man march" had, at best estimate, only 400,000 people. So, let's run through the scenarios.
You get a million people, and then the report is "well, about what we expected came out"
You get less than a million people. Then, the media can ridicule you for not getting what you claimed (you know, exactly what happened with the Million Man March)
[–]Shinma 83 points84 points85 points 5 months ago
Exactly. Always estimate in your favor. Whole thing is already set up for ridicule and failure.
They should have predicted a 100,000 person protest, then if they got 250,000 or more it'd be an incredible show of support.
Damn kids... they probably think Star Trek is all lens flares and explosions.
"Do you always multiply your repair estimates by a factor of four?" "How else to maintain my reputation as a miracle worker?"
[–]clamb 21 points22 points23 points 5 months ago
"Under promise, over deliver"
See also: Scotty
[–]maxxusflamus 17 points18 points19 points 5 months ago
I'm not sure what it is about the loudest OWS proponents. I feel like they're on Fox News levels of outrageous blind propaganda.
[–]Bring_dem 28 points29 points30 points 5 months ago
Def.
Stupid million man march
That thing got no attention
[–]Robot_Ghost 11 points12 points13 points 5 months ago
We still call it the Million Man March, no matter what the head-count really was, though.
Why not call it the 14 billion man march then?
[–]thrillhouse1980 6 points7 points8 points 5 months ago
Wall Street/Corporate Lobby = The Puppetmasters. Washington = The Puppets. While I think the puppetmaster deserves more scorn than the dummy being manipulated. I still think there's plenty of room to do a multi-front attack against all who are responsible for this mess.
[–]thisisjohnbrown 8 points9 points10 points 5 months ago
If this gets traction, I will use my saved vacation time and travel all the way from Portland, OR. I just looked at tickets, and I will do it.
Someone needs to get on the planning. Where to go, who is going to help, how to get to the parks, van pools from the airport, etc. It's all well and good to occupy the city you live in, but I have never even been to DC, and it's thousands of miles away. I wouldn't even know how to get to the capital from the airport (which airport do I fly into?).
[–]1RAOKADAY 183 points184 points185 points 5 months ago
If people are down voting this because of an assumption that it will fail. They really aught to realize that they are fulfilling their own pessimism.
[–]awesomechemist 25 points26 points27 points 5 months ago
I upvoted in hopes that it will catch on and succeed. I wont be there, but its my own way of feeling like I contributed.
[–]codereign 29 points30 points31 points 5 months ago
I'm Canadian, I'd like to occupy the back of our prime-ministers head with a blunt object.
[–]DialecticRationalist 7 points8 points9 points 5 months ago
Good thing you're Canadian. In the US you'd already have FBI at your door.
[–]muyoso 1 point2 points3 points 5 months ago
I upvoted because I think it will be hilarious when the "1 million people" turns out to be about a thousand.
[–]bobartig 58 points59 points60 points 5 months ago
So all the naysayers who kept saying, "they should occupy Congress," what's their complaint about OWS going to be now?
[–]cockwaffle 16 points17 points18 points 5 months ago
That they won't actually occupy congress.
It's one thing to put a million people in DC. It's another to have as many of them as will fit in the capitol building while congress is supposed in session.
[–]Shinma 39 points40 points41 points 5 months ago
Messing up the White House lawn... Damage to national artifacts / memorials / historic buildings / statues...
I imagine a few regarding the proximity to MLK day, since anything of this kind of magnitude would being setting up the day prior, at minimum... (I guess it's insulting and disrespectful to a group of people who tried to organize a million men in protest, or something... they'd figure out a way. The Propaganda Engine is very well programmed to discredit you, no matter what the outcome.)
[–]Black_Astra 8 points9 points10 points 5 months ago
Nicholas Cage in...
National Treasure 3: Occupy DC ?
[–]matlick 2 points3 points4 points 5 months ago
Feel free to try and mess up the White House lawn.
[–]aubreya24 16 points17 points18 points 5 months ago*
I WAS a naysayer (you can read-so in my comment history if you are so inclined!) and I actually fully plan on participating in this Occupy demonstration. Many of us have been naysayers because this is exactly what we thought should be done all along!
edit: To qualify: By participation on my part, I meant that I will probably show up for a couple of hours, I won't be camping out though!
[–]LordoftheLemmings 6 points7 points8 points 5 months ago
That you took this long to do it?
[–]Naeddyr 10 points11 points12 points 5 months ago
That they are lazy bums who can't get anything done and will usher in an organized, unstoppable and highly-motivated concentrated campaign to bring about a dystopian new age of communistic authoritarianism that will make Stalin look like an underachiever.
[–]kingtrewq 5 points6 points7 points 5 months ago
Love the self contradicting sentence. Can't get anything done yet they will reconstruct the entire government infrastructure.
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 5 months ago
Personally I think it'd be better off forming itself as a pressure group and professionalising the movement. I've also always thought a mass march in Washington would do the most 'damage'. I also say this as a Brit so really my opinion means nothing really.
[–]pineapple_face 16 points17 points18 points 5 months ago
Why not occupy the Federal Reserve and other central banks globally while we are at it??
[–]Honey_Baked 9 points10 points11 points 5 months ago
Is there an article on this anywhere?
[–]CaptainMorgen 6 points7 points8 points 5 months ago
For the love of all that is holy, EVERYBODY WEAR A SUIT
[–]Dooby_Skoo 44 points45 points46 points 5 months ago
http://i.imgur.com/hYVxQ.gif
[–]isdevilis 3 points4 points5 points 5 months ago
my thoughts exactly... I ain't downvoting anything I wana see how this turns out cause it's either gonna fail hard on its face or it'll be a nice spectacle!
[–]Raekai 15 points16 points17 points 5 months ago
This would be amazing... I wonder how people will react to it.
[–]NoMoreNicksLeft 22 points23 points24 points 5 months ago
You guys somehow need to convince the Tea Partiers that they should be involved in a big way. No clue how to do it.
[–]completely_harmless 3 points4 points5 points 5 months ago
I'm down. It should be closer to the spring so that we can stay longer.
[–]Noells 5 points6 points7 points 5 months ago
Occupying congress with millions of people will be too messy to get anything done. Instead I suggest that we vote on who we consider the smartest representatives to go and occupy congress for us.
[–]Box_of_Shit 6 points7 points8 points 5 months ago
On the DC Metro escalators:
PLEASE STAND ON THE RIGHT AND WALK ON THE LEFT
I am not kidding.
-DC Resident
[–]Sorr_Ttam 83 points84 points85 points 5 months ago
Make sure you get permits this time.
[–]d_eris 36 points37 points38 points 5 months ago
You do not need permission from the government to exercise first amendment rights.
[–]Big_Baby_Jesus 110 points111 points112 points 5 months ago*
The Supreme Court said that you do. But they also said that those permits can't be denied just because the government doesn't like the protestors. Link.
[–]Shinma 77 points78 points79 points 5 months ago
They can, however, deny it due to the logistics of providing a safe, secure area. Can't provide proper sanitation, police coverage, landscaping, or the minimum required number of frappuccino machines etc... all can mean no permit.
"Free Speech Zones" were also found a legal restriction by the courts.
The large number they're advertizing for means no permit. And using a smaller number but attracting more would violate any permit, meaning they could still shut it down by force.
There is no winning this one. Not legally.
Even MLK Jr. was arrested for failure to permit. It's part of the game. Like getting beaten by cops. It's the price of admission for any rally.
[–]harlows_monkeys 21 points22 points23 points 5 months ago
Correct. However, you must exercise your first amendment rights in a manner that does not prevent others from exercising their first amendment rights, or from exercising their right of free association, or from exercising their other implied rights that are necessary in order for the others to have meaning (such as their right of free travel).
In order to ensure that ALL get to exercise their rights, it is legal for the government to require permits for events like this, subject to certain restrictions that have been specified by the courts over the last couple hundred years.
[–]patchbag 5 points6 points7 points 5 months ago
It's very clear that constitutional rights protect an individual from the federal government. "shall make no law" is a definitive statement regardless of how much that law might intend to protect an individual's "implied rights" from other individuals.
[–]Shinma 15 points16 points17 points 5 months ago
That's pre 9/11 thinking, citizen. You need to apply through proper channels so there is time to set up the appropriate free-speech zones.
In a field. Nearby. Like, in Pennsylvania. You know, so not to block traffic, or mess up the lawn.
Somebody is going to remember to call a sanitation company and get a whole lotta' port-a-johns, right?
[–]818 13 points14 points15 points 5 months ago
Reasonable content-neutral TPM restrictions have been constitutional way before 9/11. Since Cox v NH, which was in the 1940s I think.
[–]nwestnine 28 points29 points30 points 5 months ago
Who is getting the permits for this and where will it be held?
[–]Jabuke 5 points6 points7 points 5 months ago
Over 1 million people will descend We should occupy
Over 1 million people will descend
We should occupy
Big difference there.
[–]ac3raven 4 points5 points6 points 5 months ago*
And don't leave until there's a new Congress.
[–][deleted] 5 months ago
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[–]logicalutilizor 51 points52 points53 points 5 months ago*
Hell. It's about time.
source
[–]flibbyjibbits 16 points17 points18 points 5 months ago
Getting closer to the source, really
[–]timeformetofly 13 points14 points15 points 5 months ago
Changing the world takes time. Look what's happened in just a couple of months. OWS is right on track, has been from the beginning.
[–]Thepunk28 3 points4 points5 points 5 months ago
To me, it has been hard to relate to people camping in tents in random parks around the country. What does that represent? Occupying Dc, that is a different story. That represents everything that was once ours, that has been taken from us and we are taking it back.
[–]timeformetofly 3 points4 points5 points 5 months ago
Those camping in their cities feel the same way about their cities and the thievery happening in all politics, corporations, and banks.
[–]BraunsteinFreres 9 points10 points11 points 5 months ago
Can we start a CARPOOL from CA? puh puh please.
Haha, Joke's on those corporations lobbying for weaker regulations on carbon emissions. As a result, January 17th will be a balmy 60 degrees.
[–]dunSHATmySelf 7 points8 points9 points 5 months ago
Who the fucked picked a tuesday? How the fuck are students and employed supprts going to be able to go?
[–]dlistblogger 4 points5 points6 points 5 months ago
Just "liked" and shared it. Your welcome :P
[–]timthomaspsu 4 points5 points6 points 5 months ago
i am driving my scooter from salt lake city!
[–]dmbrown41 12 points13 points14 points 5 months ago
They are ensuring a maximum number of people by doing it in a month were DC averages tons of snowfall and 28 degree temperatures
Who wouldn't want to drive in that weather and then stand in the freezing cold?
[–]wolfx 8 points9 points10 points 5 months ago
Yeah it is a horrific time to do it. The protest needs to happen, but not then
[–]dmbrown41 9 points10 points11 points 5 months ago
I'm glad someone does. I'm kind of confused as to why I'm getting downvoted.
Would it not make more sense to do it when the roads are safe to travel and people would not suffer health risks from spending potentially hours in freezing temperatures?
[–]Mark_Lincoln 9 points10 points11 points 5 months ago
We turned out 500,000 for the November Moratorium against the War in 1969.
Good Luck, but I bet you will fall 99% short.
[–]swing9this 9 points10 points11 points 5 months ago
As someone who works in D.C. my first reaction was "ugh traffic is going to SUCK."
[–]slohcinretrac 13 points14 points15 points 5 months ago
count me in
[–]hevoo 20 points21 points22 points 5 months ago
Lets be real, it won't be 1 million. Be lucky if you get 100,000 or 10,000. But, please prove me wrong.
[–]sinkorfloat 32 points33 points34 points 5 months ago
Or you could help to prove it right. This is the problem with any movement. People will support these acts from their arm chair, but they won't actually get out there. Stop saying "I hope there are 1 million people there." and start saying "I'll see you there."
[–]KsigCowboy 18 points19 points20 points 5 months ago
All redditors are not within driving distance of D.C.
[–]classicrockchick 23 points24 points25 points 5 months ago
Why not make it the day before, which is Martin Luther King Day? There's already two really good reasons: 1) the parallels between OWS and the civils rights movement and 2) everyone is off because it's a federal holiday, thus ensuring more people show up.
[–]bobbo1701 44 points45 points46 points 5 months ago
We bitched about Glenn Beck co-opting MLK, so OWS shouldn't do it either.
[–]TomSelleckPI 5 points6 points7 points 5 months ago
Does the fact that MLK wouldn't piss on Beck if he were on fire, unless he could piss gasoline from his dick like a flamethrower, make it any better?
[–]Sgt--Hulka[S] 30 points31 points32 points 5 months ago
Congress won't be in session until that Tuesday. This demonstration needs to be held while they are in the Capitol.
[–]tweakingforjesus 28 points29 points30 points 5 months ago
Congress is not the audience. Other voters through the media are the audience. Always have been.
[–]deconistor 3 points4 points5 points 5 months ago
I'd have to disagree there. Affiliating OWS with any movements that already exist in this manner make it too easy to compare OWS with a past movement or lump OWS with the past movement. The last thing that needs to happen is Fox News watchers start yelling about how much worse OWS is and how they've shamed MLK day ect. ect. It just enables further pushing away of conservatives.
[–]LettersFromTheSky 12 points13 points14 points 5 months ago
How do you know it will be 1Million people?
[–]logicalutilizor 24 points25 points26 points 5 months ago
Self-fulfilling prophecy.
[–]Music_Ian 3 points4 points5 points 5 months ago
So many people have this viewpoint that Congress and the US Government are really who run things around here - and you're not entirely wrong, but the highest folk are on Wall Street, bankers, oil barons, and corporate mega-hogs. They have all the money, and in capitalism, money = power. This movement started where it should have and is now spreading where it should be. OWS is an on-going movement (of course), and while I can't say it's been a complete success yet, I certainly can't say it's been a failure. Occupying Congress on the day they start their legislative session is the perfect time for this march. I see no reason to pull out of this movement now, the doubt caused will surely be very detrimental. This movement already has momentum, let's work with the flow and get something done. OCCUPY CONGRESS - JANUARY 17TH, 2012. please upvote if you agree (or at least give a comment saying this in your own words - every comment and upvote has its impact, it starts HERE AND NOW - Let's Do This!)
[–]christineboutwell 1 point2 points3 points 5 months ago
We're with you.
[–]biggles86 1 point2 points3 points 5 months ago
I'm so glad they are finally doing this. However this will Give Congress an Excuse for doing nothing.
[–]2abyssinians 9 points10 points11 points 5 months ago
You mean business as usual?
[–]not_nought 2 points3 points4 points 5 months ago
Excellent!
[–]rhott 2 points3 points4 points 5 months ago
I would love to go, but I don't have any more vacation days and it's a tuesday. Would have been better on the 16th, MLK day ...
[–]MLein97 4 points5 points6 points 5 months ago
Ok, we're getting closer to actually making a difference, now you need the modern day equivalent of Hoovervilles in front of congress.
[–]textbandit 4 points5 points6 points 5 months ago
You need to have a specific purpose or it will all be for naught. Create a list of 10 demands to really make it worth while. How about demand the arrest of those responsible for the mortgage mess? Limit term limits. Limit Congressmen or their staff from becoming lobbyists right after their term.
[–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points 5 months ago
Enough of the bullshit numbers, please.
[–]mssmith92 2 points3 points4 points 5 months ago
Looks like the facebook group blocked out 6 digits of attending.
[–]derpderpin 2 points3 points4 points 5 months ago
"Over 1 million people will descend on Washington DC" no they won't.
[–]420wasabisnappin 2 points3 points4 points 5 months ago
Not that I don't love everything OWS stands for and is pushing for in our country, I'm just going to play a little devil's advocate and ask: Does anyone else feel it's sad 1,000,000 people is an accomplishment in a country of 300,000,000??
[–]harryman11 2 points3 points4 points 5 months ago
AMERICA, FUCK YEAH!! Now lets fuck some shit up in DC, and by fuck some shit up in DC I mean peacefully protest and let our voices be heard.
[–]rationis 12 points13 points14 points 5 months ago
I always felt that the OWS movement wasn't aimed at the real perpetrators. While Wall Street is a problem, it was the White House that gave them our money. I'd like to see 3+ million angry people at the White House.
[–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points 5 months ago
The smug sensors are off the charts!
[–]5celery 5 points6 points7 points 5 months ago
Is that officially the coldest day of the year in DC, and if not - why not? Is this call being put out by WS just to torture people (while they drink mint julips in the Bahamas)?
[–]random_dent 3 points4 points5 points 5 months ago
while they drink mint julips in the Bahamas
Occupy the Bahamas!
[–]Shinma 5 points6 points7 points 5 months ago*
So who picked this day, for what reason, and why the fuck is in on a Tuesday?
I assume something is in session that day? [Still trying to bring up the calendars.]
[Edit: Ah... 112th Congress session. Giotcha.]
[–]evapilot967 7 points8 points9 points 5 months ago
How about people actually act on their beliefs? Ex: Against the bank bailouts and your representative(s) voted for them? Don't vote for them again and send them mail saying why. The fact that there exists such a wide gap between the incumbency rate in Congress and its approval rating suggests that people aren't connecting Congress's bad performance with their specific representative(s) - they need to. Find your rep, look at their voting record, and then you vote accordingly.
[–]autisticwolf 5 points6 points7 points 5 months ago
The time for Occupations is over. Now is the time for organization and action.
Be wary of "events" like this.
[–]thecrikster 4 points5 points6 points 5 months ago
When are you guys gonna stop pissing about and actually overthrow your government FFS! Occupy Congress? You're just looking silly now.
[–]gcanuck614 7 points8 points9 points 5 months ago
[–]OHhokie1 6 points7 points8 points 5 months ago
As a libertarian, I can get behind this...
[–]lakes44 11 points12 points13 points 5 months ago
The traffic that this site gets is roughly 15 million a month so don't tell me we can't when all it really takes is to show up. Request off now for that day and/or week and bring your ass too it. Make it happen and stop trying to predict how bad it will fail. Get Mad As Hell.
[–]JorisL 20 points21 points22 points 5 months ago
Forgot something: NOT EVERYBODY IS FROM THE US!
[–]diesel321 2 points3 points4 points 5 months ago
...and not everybody lives near DC
[–]OmNamahShivaya 9 points10 points11 points 5 months ago
I might join. Depends on how my life plays out, and if this actually gets well organized in the mean-time.
I have two jobs and am struggling to deal with legal issues regarding possession of marijuana. So we'll see.
[–]retiredhipster 3 points4 points5 points 5 months ago
Oh goddamnit
I go to school in DC, my winter break ends Jan 17. This is going to make it impossible to get back to campus that weekend
[–]krackbaby 2 points3 points4 points 5 months ago
Holy shit that is my birthday
[–]discreet 11 points12 points13 points 5 months ago
Happy Birthday! We all chipped in and got you a face full of pepper spray... oh and a card.
[–]urabunch0fassholes 4 points5 points6 points 5 months ago
Me too!
[–]r2002 1 point2 points3 points 5 months ago
I'd like to see a million-man crowd sing you a happy birthday. Let's make this happen Reddit!
[–]InvertedVantage 3 points4 points5 points 5 months ago
Downvoting. Occupy needs to start actually organizing around salient points and ideas, needs to start helping their local communities, and if they have a problem with, say, unemployment, start organizing to fix the problems themselves, rather than just camping out and bitching that Congress do it for them, because I think it's obvious to everyone that they couldn't even if they wanted to.
[–]forlove 10 points11 points12 points 5 months ago
Diablo 3 release date. Will not attend.
[–]Foogey 1 point2 points3 points 5 months ago*
You need to join forces with OWS. It'd make a lot of sense to keep occupiers on Wall Street while implementing Congress and the Federal Reserve. After all, the Federal Reserve truly 'owns' all of us Americans.
You'll have to list collective ideas and what this protest means. Many people don't know WHY they are protesting, but occupy because they are upset. It'd also be a great idea to have the 'main' group of activists wearing a style of clothing that way it's known whom is strongly supporting it and who just happened to stumble by.
Also, create a line or two for people to easily memorize that states what the movement means when approached by the media. Say nothing else and walk away. You keep giving them the same spiel over and over again, they'll eventually have nothing to edit and show to make the group look unorganized/unintelligent.
One problem we'll face is the fact that undercover officers are infiltrating the groups and appearing as activists. This is a scary fact as they could easily wear a Guy Fawkes mask and ruin the credibility of the group by ruining its image. There's really nothing you can do to prevent that. However you can make it known that this is a peaceful protest and any person(s) who attacks another, loots, and/or destroys property is NOT for the cause as they're only hurting their brothers and sisters.
Race, religion, job (or lack of) and background are indifferent. This affects ALL of us. As the human race, we either stand together or we fall together.
There are only two options.
[–]Richandler 1 point2 points3 points 5 months ago
I up vote this because I am against the current occupy protest that are stirring up the wrong pot. This seems so much more relevant at first glance. We'll see.
[–]slack6a66ath 0 points1 point2 points 5 months ago
It's about time. Wall Street is not the problem. It is our government.
[–]PhillyPhish 1 point2 points3 points 5 months ago
Well at least "they" have fucking jobs NOT to do.
[–]sbrbrad 2 points3 points4 points 5 months ago
Attending a facebook event =/= actually showing up to the real event.
I have a feeling many more will simply e-attend lol
[–]Pastapostle 2 points3 points4 points 5 months ago
I like hitting refresh on that page and watching the number of likes go up.
[–]CaptInappropriate 2 points3 points4 points 5 months ago
I hope people will go into senate and house office buildings to talk to their congressional representatives... There are only 435 of them, and if they each have to allocate time out of their day to talk to their constituents, they will quickly feel the pressure.
[–]lagspike 1 point2 points3 points 5 months ago
you wont be influencing DC unless you are a lobbyist.
sorry, OWS. that isnt how things work there.
[–]jbillzz33 1 point2 points3 points 5 months ago
They've been Occupying DC, and it's the most lackluster protest I've ever seen. It doesn't bother any lawmakers, and all it does is inconvenience the common man who's trying to get to his job that doesn't pay enough.
[–]argv_minus_one 2 points3 points4 points 5 months ago
More like over 1 dozen people, amirite?
[–]tj8805 2 points3 points4 points 5 months ago
OVER 1 MILLION PEOPLE
Facebook group has 2000 people
[–]MasterOfTheMoon 2 points3 points4 points 5 months ago
Congress
Wrong target. That's like watching a bad puppet show and bitching about it to the marionettes.
[–]BigPharmaSucks 2 points3 points4 points 5 months ago
Interesting article from Gleen Greenwald
Having SEIU officials — fresh off endorsing the Obama re-election campaign — shape, fund, dictate and decree an anti-GOP, pro-Obama march is about as antithetical as one can imagine to what the Occupy movement has been. And pretending that the ongoing protests are grounded in the belief that the GOP is the party of the rich while the Democrats are the party of the working class is likely to fool just about nobody other than those fooled by that already. The strength and genius of OWS has been its steadfast refusal to (a) fall into the trap that ensnared the Tea Party of being exploited as a partisan tool and (b) integrate itself into the very political institutions which it’s scorning and protesting.
http://www.salon.com/2011/11/19/heres_what_attempted_co_option_of_ows_looks_like/
[–]dolpsc 1 point2 points3 points 5 months ago
what happened when they occupied my town... http://imgur.com/v4KsV
[–]Zeneevee 2 points3 points4 points 5 months ago
I doubt it will happen but ARCEUS I hope it does. I've been saying since Occupy Wall Street started that they should Occupy our fucking government. DO IT!
[–]revanant9377 1 point2 points3 points 5 months ago
I feel ashamed for not involving myself in the Occupy movement, especially since I live less than an hour from NYC. I am definitely doing this.
[–]jefro826 2 points3 points4 points 5 months ago
first things first - who's behind this "Occupy" protest? cuz it sure as hell ain't Occupy DC. beware the co-option!
all it takes is a username and password
create account
is it really that easy? only one way to find out...
already have an account and just want to login?
login
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