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Creationism vs Evolution, Limerick Style (self.DebateAChristian)
submitted 7 months ago by kg959Christian, Old Earth Creationist
This forum is getting quite drab So I thought I might give this a stab It might be a gimmick But post as a limerick If about this you would like to gab I thought we could start with creation I want all your interpretations Do you think we evolved, Or is this better solved By a bit of divine inspiration? Evolution i see as a theory Of accepting it I am quite leery It has many gaps So I think perhaps The idea has grown rather weary
[–]wroth 351 points352 points353 points 7 months ago
if you think evolution has direction,
then I think I should offer a correction.
The tuning's not fine;
what you see as divine,
is quite simply, natural selection.
[–]kg959Christian, Old Earth Creationist[S] 146 points147 points148 points 7 months ago
My issue's not that it's unguided But rather how species are divided If mutations abound Why can't there be found New species that were just incited?
[–]wroth 246 points247 points248 points 7 months ago
The mutations are really quite small.
Evolution happens at a crawl.
The good changes stay,
the bad go away.
The result is new species for all.
[–]kg959Christian, Old Earth Creationist[S] 123 points124 points125 points 7 months ago
The problem though is speciation That promotes the normalization Of each species type But my biggest gripe Is that it destroys information
[–]wroth 186 points187 points188 points 7 months ago
Information isn't destroyed
it is altered, and then redeployed
C, G, T and A
makes up all DNA
The amalgam makes species ahoy!
But if species cannot interbreed To which evolution concedes, Then a problem remains So please do explain How the mutant can then "do the deed"
[–]unkzAtheist 143 points144 points145 points 7 months ago
fecundity's but a distribution
probabilistic in its execution
and like zeno's paradox,
the discreteness of clocks,
provides a terminus to its diminution
[–]kg959Christian, Old Earth Creationist[S] 89 points90 points91 points 7 months ago
I know what you're saying about swap-out
Of genes should eventually stop-out
But chance leaves excepted
How the creature's incepted
It seems more to me like a cop-out.
[–]unkzAtheist 118 points119 points120 points 7 months ago
the problem is identification of class
of a creature neither horse nor ass
if they didn't look hard,
its descendants may yet regard,
it as an attractive young lad or young lass
[–]kg959Christian, Old Earth Creationist[S] 76 points77 points78 points 7 months ago
This claim does make some sense But it raises some questions, thence Your little contortion Points toward reabsorption And ignores the question of "whence?"
[–]holloway 13 points14 points15 points 7 months ago
Species do not turn on a dime,
But evolve they will in good time,
Learn ye now of Ring Species!
Mutants composed of species pieces
Voilà! The broken line.
[–]KAMalosh 15 points16 points17 points 7 months ago
But species can indeed interbreed
I'm not sure who has in you planted this seed
Have you never heard of the liger?
It's a mix of a lion and tiger.
interbreeding is possible, I think it can be agreed.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liger
[–]AtheismFTW 36 points37 points38 points 7 months ago
Perhaps Horizontal gene transfer and Interspecies sex can answer a question so plain wikipedia could explain it even to a Biology 101 slacker
[–]SanityInAnarchyAgnostic Atheist, Ex-Jew 9 points10 points11 points 7 months ago
You're thinking species are discrete, And a sep'rate "Mutant" can't compete, But we've observed such a thing As a gradient ring The "same" species, but the ends cannot "meet."
(ring species)
So you see, species is just a word To describe what we think we've observ'd *Humans* categorize But is Nature obliged To fit with our "kinds"? How absurd! And a "mutant"? Hey, wait, hold the phone! X-Men got it wrong: "Mutants", as they're known, Are just small deviations From a large population But are they Forever Alone? Not at all! They're easily found, Blue eyes are common, and brown Would the first with such eyes Be rejected, despised Or unable to "get around?"
(blue-eyed common ancestor)
I admit, your views would seem stuck In a faith which you've let run amok; Misled you may be But I can't help but see You've made this thread classy as fuck.
[–]seeasea 0 points1 point2 points 7 months ago
What is an ex-Jew?
[–]SanityInAnarchyAgnostic Atheist, Ex-Jew 2 points3 points4 points 7 months ago
On a limmerick thread? Well, you see, I was Jewish till philosophy Made me think about why Would that man in the sky Allow evil and suff'ring to be. I could be a "Cultural Jew", But I lost my respect for that, too; My ancestry's diverse Am I Jewish, or Norse? I'm an Atheist mutt, then, to you.
An black man can lose respect for black culture, yet he remains black.
An Asian man can lose respect for asian society, yet he remains asian.
A Jewish man can lose respect for Jewishness, yet he remaisn Jewish.
(I can't Limerick)
[–]wanderederer1 2 points3 points4 points 7 months ago
Sometimes a genetic mutation
can lead to a geographic separation
in this sort of case
the extra space
can lead to speciation
[–]Gosssamer 15 points16 points17 points 7 months ago
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wb00BfnNr8Y
I CANT RHYME
[–]Chance4e 1 point2 points3 points 7 months ago
This is the best one by far.
[–]Ari_Rahikkala 9 points10 points11 points 7 months ago
Evolution really copies information!
To see how, just make a prediction:
Fennec ears radiate heat
What biome does that beat?
Now why don't you read some Shannon?
It's useful for a gazelle to leap
And any earthly animal to sleep
A species is a statement
About its environment!
(plus chaos; a little of it is cheap)
[–]mutatron 3 points4 points5 points 7 months ago
If speciation's where you need a clue,
Just take human chromosome two,
Human from chimp, well
It might be as simple
As having little or no recombination in chromosomes heterozygous for rearrangements, whoop de doo!
[–]wroth 42 points43 points44 points 7 months ago
There are 40 thousand species of spider.
Could you tell if you compared side-by-side-er?
A species is decreed,
when two cannot breed.
And so it's not just a simple divider.
[–]kg959Christian, Old Earth Creationist[S] 35 points36 points37 points 7 months ago
There still is a problem right there Of exception, albeit quite rare Some types interbreed Even though not decreed Like how a cat can breed with a hare.
[–]unkzAtheist 68 points69 points70 points 7 months ago
pardon my brief interjection
but to the best of my recollection
though there be ring species,
which are akin to your theses,
cabbits are naught but a fiction
[–]kg959Christian, Old Earth Creationist[S] 51 points52 points53 points 7 months ago
I agree with that little jewel But my intent wasn't to fool I just couldn't that time Come up with a rhyme That allowed me to use the word "mule"
[–]unkzAtheist 32 points33 points34 points 7 months ago
I must argue to the contrary
for a mule's an excellent corollary
speciation events are not neat,
betwixt horse and donkey incomplete,
and in their offspring you see fertility vary
[–]kg959Christian, Old Earth Creationist[S] 21 points22 points23 points 7 months ago
Suppose that a mule will be born Fertility close to the norm The problem is where That mule finds a pair Before his life is outworn.
[–]unkzAtheist 27 points28 points29 points 7 months ago
the chances are relatively spare
that offspring this mule should bear
for this is precisely the point
the species shall soon be disjoint
as their gene sharing becomes increasingly rare
[–]kg959Christian, Old Earth Creationist[S] 16 points17 points18 points 7 months ago
But if there remain some that breed With both groups before they secede, The genes that they're passing Since in both groups amassing, Slows diversion, would you not agree?
[–]kadmylos 6 points7 points8 points 7 months ago
Long eras and long distances
Make these big differences
They split once, then again
And again, and again
Until they forget where they came from and when
[–]mindbleach 3 points4 points5 points 7 months ago
Demanding such sharp speciation Relies upon old information. Modern gene science Permits fuzzy lines -- The "kinds" meme requires cessation.
[–]kimprobableAtheist, Ex-Christian 20 points21 points22 points 7 months ago
There isn't a demarcation line The changes are really quite fine Imagine a baby Growing into a lady It's a slow change over time In case I wasn't quite clear No distinct line marks the year While growing, changes occurred Lines between ages are really quite blurred A step from child to adult is not clear Now here is an example of change Some fish are really quite strange Frog fish crawl with their fins A mudskipper will make you grin Because land is part of its range
[–]kadmylos 11 points12 points13 points 7 months ago
There once was a mosquito that lived underground
As well as a mouse that moved into town
You'll, sadly, only see it in
flies and E. coli
Unless you've got a million years to sit down.
[–]AtheismFTW 7 points8 points9 points 7 months ago
If you look at your brethren's cancer you may just soon find your answer not every mutation is cause for celebration nor a "positive" evolutionary adapter
[–]roosterreddit 3 points4 points5 points 7 months ago
To find such support of the theorem
You can find evidence in the bacterium
Their generation cycles are short
So their genetics distort
And you get sick by a new strain every autumn
[–]trolloc1 7 points8 points9 points 7 months ago
Whether evolution exists should not be debated
for the bible is quite outdated
the facts are all there
you just have to compare
them to a theory 2000 years ago created
[–]wanderederer1 1 point2 points3 points 7 months ago
A species is a reproductive group
Something is left out of the loop
in order that I
can classify
something like Homo noob
[–]wroth 75 points76 points77 points 7 months ago
If there's not enough proof to accept it,
but you can't provide more to reject it,
since there'll always be gaps
then instead, say, perhaps,
"I don't know " instead of "God effects it!"
[–]kg959Christian, Old Earth Creationist[S] 23 points24 points25 points 7 months ago
Evolution is oft understood As a theory that explained what it could, But if I claim design, Natural or divine, I don't see why it isn't as good.
[–]wroth 34 points35 points36 points 7 months ago*
All about evidence, friend.
It'll get to the truth in the end.
you can pose new ideas,
they're reviewed by your peers,
If they do not stand up, then they're... canned (sorry)
I can't disagree with that fact That theories deserve to be backed But what makes them flower Is explanatory power Without that they have no impact.
[–]MadeOfStarStuff 35 points36 points37 points 7 months ago
"God" has no explanatory power because if you say "He" made that flower, you're still left with why and from where "He" did arise. "God" just turns curiosity sour.
[–]kg959Christian, Old Earth Creationist[S] 9 points10 points11 points 7 months ago
If God made the flower indeed The question does not yet recede For the "Why?" still remains There's still room for brains Why a flower and not just a weed?
[–]MadeOfStarStuff 12 points13 points14 points 7 months ago
Using the known to explain the unknown is how science has over time shown our world we can understand. But knowledge doesn't expand with theology at hand, seeking the unknown to explain the known.
[–]kg959Christian, Old Earth Creationist[S] 13 points14 points15 points 7 months ago
Ignoring your breech of the style, Theology isn't so vile, For the questions it asks Become science's tasks As they sort out what seems to beguile.
[–]keepingthecommontone 14 points15 points16 points 7 months ago
I come into this argument late; If I'm duplicating, please don't hate But has it been said "What if the Godhead Used evolution to create?"
[–]rashtastic 4 points5 points6 points 7 months ago
I think that our Lord did begin, The Darwinian process herein. I'm glad you agree, So worship with me: "His noodly appendage, Ramen." The reason I offer this jest is to put faith to the test. With science, find fact. But faith, you enact? Then no claims can be put to rest.
[–]ADM1N1STRAT0RChristian, Ex-Agnostic 8 points9 points10 points 7 months ago*
I offer my thoughts later still, That our very fate is of His Will, He said "Let There Be Light," And since He's always right, Today that BANG puzzles the skilled. You have to look if you would see, God's signature is prophecy, He had published intentions, Of His interventions, Then carried them out to a T. How this can be is an affair, Which science must handle with care, For it offers no theory, As it's too big a query, And there's "room at the bottom" for prayer. By the time you read it all through, It shows that it's logically true, That God spoke through history, How He did it's a mystery, And moreso, that Christ died for you. For one, I don't fear evolution, It may well have been God's solution, But we need not embrace A godless headspace In order to find resolution!
[–]rashtastic 8 points9 points10 points 7 months ago*
The pattern, it appears to me, is made clear in the history: Science provides light. Religion may fight, but soon is revised to agree.
[–]rashtastic 2 points3 points4 points 7 months ago*
Some questions of course will remain. But this Mr. Star Stuff made plain: the power of theory to explain some query is not present in your refrain.
[–]tehzephyrsong 20 points21 points22 points 7 months ago
Sorry for my breaking in; Your username's just made of win Here, have an upvote And away I shall float And likely not come here again.
[–]unkzAtheist 43 points44 points45 points 7 months ago
If your argumentative tack
is that explanatory power we lack
then perhaps you've not seen
the history of vaccine
viral adaptation is a well-observed fact.
[–]kg959Christian, Old Earth Creationist[S] 15 points16 points17 points 7 months ago
On a micro scale I have no gripe Like differences in phenotype Genes being traded From creatures when mated But macro seems a different type
Do you accept macro-erosion?
where small changes can look like an explosion?
It's the same kind of gig
small adds up to big
it's just a much slower motion
[–]onthevergejoe 19 points20 points21 points 7 months ago
In the words of my Uncle Irvine, Evolution or, rather, Divine The problem, my dears: In just six thousand years. There cannot be sufficient time. "Oh, Irvine!" My aunt would reply You think that you're ever so sly. But your child-like faith Seems quite out of place. Also, could you please record Maury on the VCR for me tonight because I have to go to Ethel's to play cribbage.
The difference between them is glaring
The crux of which rests on the bearing
That erosion's a process
Of entropy losses
Evolution claims building, not wearing
[–]Def-Star 14 points15 points16 points 7 months ago
Deletion of genes is a fact, mate.
It tells us how mammals lactate.
These peas don't climb fences
mole rats lack sight senses
'Twas crucial to the evo. of the primate
[–]fuzzymechyAtheist 8 points9 points10 points 7 months ago
it seems to me what you're saying,
is that genetic mis-copying is only decaying
that genetics mutations
result in lost information
but i find that that notion dismaying
(here's some info, sorry it's kind of hard to put a link name into a limerick. also, i apologize if i', getting your point wrong, as fun as this is, there's a reason debates don't tend to be in limerick form
http://www.don-lindsay-archive.org/creation/new_info.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mutation#Classification_of_mutation_types
http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn13673-evolution-myths-mutations-can-only-destroy-information.html)
[–]bilds 6 points7 points8 points 7 months ago
Dude, no one cares for your link. Forget about carbon and zinc. It's the mode of expression that counts for this session. So next time before you post, think.
[–]nytehauq 1 point2 points3 points 7 months ago
If you for a moment remember
The light from that glorious ember
Mixed energy betwixt 'em
Earth's myriad systems
Your thermodynamics's dismembered
[–]wroth 1 point2 points3 points 7 months ago
"Building" implies a direction
for which I've already made an objection
evolution is just
"things change when they must"
and that's where you'll find the connection
[–]avnguyen213 0 points1 point2 points 7 months ago
And evolution does builds indeed!
With natural selection to proceed
a species onward, yet slightly altered
to ensure that it keeps on moving forward.
[–]rashtastic 0 points1 point2 points 7 months ago*
I'm not sure I follow this thought. Small changes are easily sought. The sum of these changes can lead to large ranges of species; perhaps you think not?
[–]Def-Star 7 points8 points9 points 7 months ago
You've hit the nail on the head
Theism should be put to bed
Divine creation
Has no explanation
But God did it because that's what He said
I think that your verdict is true- Explanatory power will do. To tell fact from fiction we look to prediction. Creationist inference, have you?
[–]kadmylos 1 point2 points3 points 7 months ago
If you look for explanation Evolution is your salvation What else can explain Wisdom teeth, whale thigh bones And the laryngeal nerve's circumnavigation?
If you say "Godidit" I'll just
Roll my eyes and smirk my worst
You want to explain
What no one's seeing
Making up things so your preconceptions don't burst.
[–]SecularMantis 0 points1 point2 points 7 months ago
Is that a British accent I detect? Nobody on this side of the pond could rhyme "ideas" with "peers", we're too damn rhotic.
[–]wroth 3 points4 points5 points 7 months ago
You caught me red-handed old chap.
and now it is time to distract
you with this CUP OF TEA
and away I doth flee!
but not 'fore I tip you my cap.
[–]DumDumDog -2 points-1 points0 points 7 months ago
if they do not stand up, from you no tears
i try ... :(
[–]ADM1N1STRAT0RChristian, Ex-Agnostic -2 points-1 points0 points 7 months ago
....If they don't stand up, it don't blend.
[–]fuzzymechyAtheist 28 points29 points30 points 7 months ago
while i think that there might be a god,
i find creation theory quite odd
it seems that the pious
have confirmation bias
and will prop up a theory that's fraud
(by the way, OP, you're awesome for making this a little more interesting)
There's one thing I think you're omitting That statement for both sides is fitting For sheeple appear When discussions aren't here To keep everybody still witting.
(You're quite welcome. I thought this might be a nice change of pace from the loaded topics and baiting we've been seeing lately.)
[–]fuzzymechyAtheist 14 points15 points16 points 7 months ago
good sir, while i do agree
the main difference is, you see
scientists lend no devotion
to some predetermined notion
they search only for reality
[–]keepingthecommontone 13 points14 points15 points 7 months ago
Of course, then we ask, "What is real?" Do we measure? Or ask how we feel? Science *now* has no path To reach God using math But it might one day nip at His heel.
[–]fuzzymechyAtheist 11 points12 points13 points 7 months ago
i think our logic is charting the same course
what that means to us is different of course
you hope there's a creator
a divine all knowing dictator
so you assume our logic is flawed perforce
[–]keepingthecommontone 6 points7 points8 points 7 months ago
On the contrary: logic is great! It should rule in any debate. But God's folk also use Extrasensory clues They feel scientists have yet to rate.
[–]Omelet 15 points16 points17 points 7 months ago
"Extrasensory," that what you said? Information from outside is read Through senses possessed With naught else we're blessed What you speak of is just in your head
[–]keepingthecommontone 8 points9 points10 points 7 months ago
Of course by that word I did mean Things not smelled, touched, heard, tasted or seen But instead figured out With no shadow of doubt From prayers answered by feelings extreme
[–]Omelet 10 points11 points12 points 7 months ago
Is it logically figured with care, Or assumed to be revealed from prayer? For one cannot deny One should not rely On what may just be mental err
Of course I agree with you, sir And here science and faith can concur: Testing just once or twice Should not ever suffice To be certain your data are sure. And yes, I myself wonder a lot About answers the spirit has wrought... Science does not have proof That these feelings are truth, But it also can't prove that they're not.
[–]fuzzymechyAtheist 10 points11 points12 points 7 months ago
which clues are you talking about?
you must have something to back up your doubt.
what makes you decide
that darwin has lied?
and that it's falsehoods that science now spouts
[–]keepingthecommontone 7 points8 points9 points 7 months ago
To be clear, I think Darwin was right so it's not with his science I fight. I think God started all: For I have heard His call Through a real, but unmeasured, light. While a quantified proof I do lack, I'm no unintelligent hack; I know I felt it true, I know God knows it too, So I'm not about to take it back.
I think I've misunderstood up 'til now, I thought that no evolution would you allow. my mis-information of your young earth creation, is something I'll change, I avow.
god as the creator is alright with me, in practice not so different are we. we both think species' descent was humans-kinds' advent although probably not in 4000 BC.
the problem comes when people decide, that science and knowledge will they deride, when they have a view that they will not let go askew and into ignorance do they willfully slide
Yes, I think 4000 BC Doesn't fit with the fossils we see, But then, men have been wrong And we've seen all along That new theories can make past "sure fact" flee. This has been such a treat for my head, And there's still so much more to be said, But my eyes feel such weight And the hour is late. Thanks for all the great fun. Now, to bed!
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[–]keepingthecommontone 2 points3 points4 points 7 months ago
I don't think at all that it's fair To ask science to now embrace prayer! But you have to admit That the facts that we get From our senses can oft be impaired. If we take this thought to the extreme, Measured facts might not be what they seem Just as Morpheus said, We each live in our head. Note that things can seem real when we dream!
[–]some_electrons 2 points3 points4 points 7 months ago*
You speak of the tricks of the mind
But think carefully, you'll find
Human experience easily shows it's flaw
But measurements and data raw
Even in error, show truth of a rational kind
[–]enum 15 points16 points17 points 7 months ago*
If I were to tell you with mirth, a kettle, did circle the Earth. Would you then say, without quips or fray, that my evidence lacks some worth?
[–]kg959Christian, Old Earth Creationist[S] 0 points1 point2 points 7 months ago
Believing that claim would be tough But I think you would say in a huff, Since I have no facts My argument lacks And your claim should just be enough But the problem here isn't the lack But rather that augments stack That no man ever thought To launch up a pot There's negative evidence in fact.
[–]enum 2 points3 points4 points 7 months ago
The example is simple, you see. When embraced, it will set your mind free. The point I was making, is there for the taking: Hypotheses need apology.
[–]ADM1N1STRAT0RChristian, Ex-Agnostic 0 points1 point2 points 7 months ago
Books of evidence have been compiled, In history kept but beguiled, But if you really knew, Like you'd read it right through, Evidence would be one claim less wild.
[–]enum 0 points1 point2 points 7 months ago
Evidence sans data is moot, to see this you must be astute. I've read the books, and know the hooks, and you're being played like a flute.
We all know you can't know God like I do, Unless you've got Christ deep inside you, So I'm saying from here, It's become crystal clear, I've seen more data than I can rhyme to. There are some who will never give cred, Even if one were raised from the dead, Their fate is decided, Though I'd override it, But come now, enough has been said.
[–]80espiay 1 point2 points3 points 7 months ago
Evidence is not found in feeling
Your thoughts are not revealing
Though you hold belief
Many others find relief
From their God who gives them "healing"
If someone were raised from the dead
Your God would still have no cred
We still don't know WHAT
raised the dead man, but
It's fallacious to claim "'twas the Godhead".
Yes, worldwide these false things abound, Though they're known to amaze and astound, They are there to make you, See Christ and poo-poo, As if no truth can ever be found. If you think that it just coincided, That Lazarus came forth when Christ chided, Then you've still got to wonder, What set him asunder, And why must your thoughts be divided. The supernatural is oft what you find, When to all sound advice you are blind, Just when you least expect, Your whole worldview gets wrecked, And you've naively opened your mind. e.g. Paranormal is one of the ploys, the "angel of light" oft enjoys, But those "ghosts" when pressed, Are forced to confess, Through their channels "I lied" with sad voice Jesus showed day after day, That there are sinister forces at play, Who love sickness and death, Whether "spirit" or "breathe," Being King, He made them go away. Deliverance may not seem progressive, Though in real life rather impressive, But your own CogDis, Causes you to dismiss, So you just go back to the collective. I'd implore you to study and look, At the supernatural guide book, 'fore you try to make sense, Of events that are hence, Lest you be ever sorely mistook.
[–]80espiay 2 points3 points4 points 7 months ago
@paragraph 1:
You claim all other gods untrue
Yet the burden of proof is on you
To show us the light
And set it all right
Until then, I'm right to "poo-poo"
@paragraph 2:
As the open-minded one here
"coincidence it COULD be," I jeer
"with some trickery on the side."
You must still explain WHY
It's undoubtedly CHRIST I must fear.
Whenever I can't explain something I see
It's fallacious to say "ONLY God this could be"
The default hypothesis
Is to say "I don't know this"
Til evidence is gathered, data is analyzed, a reasonable conclusion is reached... YIPEE!
meh. Suit yourself.
[–]MadeOfStarStuff 21 points22 points23 points 7 months ago*
Science aimed to explain what caused clouds to rain it did no good to say you could explain it as God's campaign
[–]kg959Christian, Old Earth Creationist[S] 7 points8 points9 points 7 months ago
Upvoted for keeping the scheme But I have issues that it would seem That your topic has strayed Into areas, greyed Weather's not really on theme
'tis but a momentary lapse
a jab at the god of the gaps
what we can't explain,
goes the tired refrain,
god could have done it, perhaps?
[–]MadeOfStarStuff 11 points12 points13 points 7 months ago
Science isn't confined to life, and there has always been strife between those that explicate and those that obfuscate. Mystic 'answers' have always been rife.
[–]kg959Christian, Old Earth Creationist[S] 6 points7 points8 points 7 months ago
But this topic is about evolution And your claim seems but a dilution. A jab at the gods With which you're at odds, It adds nothing but more convolution.
[–]MadeOfStarStuff 20 points21 points22 points 7 months ago*
You say you want a debate but you insist that "God" did create. And every time in the past that Nature was asked it turned out "God" we did overrate.
[–]kg959Christian, Old Earth Creationist[S] 12 points13 points14 points 7 months ago
God is not part of my claim Creation just isn't the same As belief in divine Those are your words, not mine But I feel my flair is to blame.
[–]MadeOfStarStuff 16 points17 points18 points 7 months ago
"Creation" implies purpose and thought given to the object bought into existence, but I'll keep distance from using words that you have not.
[–]unkzAtheist 8 points9 points10 points 7 months ago
Your god admits no other gods but thine,
but in your use of the plural this time,
To my ears it does seem
that thou dost blaspheme
In your haste to find a good rhyme.
[–]kg959Christian, Old Earth Creationist[S] 8 points9 points10 points 7 months ago
The plural was quite necessary When debating a person that carries Some views, esoteric So I used the generic So I think much to the contrary
[–]starien 15 points16 points17 points 7 months ago
Dismiss this because of my youth,
The idea is likely uncouth,
But we haven't a fact,
Nor the research to back
Any theory to dare call it "truth."
I know that I'm in the wrong place,
My apologies for the deface,
But we've got greater fish
To be fried in this dish
Than to care how we entered this space.
Instead of disputing our start,
We should pledge every person and heart
To simply be nice
And to never think twice
About helping and doing our part.
[–]wroth 18 points19 points20 points 7 months ago
Of course we can never know all
But to try is an honorable call
and we won't get there fast
by suggesting we cast
good ideas due to gaps, big or small.
Evolution is not just a row,
it's a useful tool for knowing "how".
It can help farms and trees,
and combat disease
and improve all our lives right now.
I agree with the third bit whole heart
but aswell as just doing our part,
we should teach what is real,
and forgo ancient spiel.
We could all do with being more smart.
[–]Talesin_BatBat 12 points13 points14 points 7 months ago*
A Creationist said 'God of course,
let a mule be born from a horse.'
love the power unknown
His miracles are shown
and must NEVER be questioned, but enforced.
in true Atheist fashion
lest facts be overwhelmed by passion
Herbert did sigh
insisting the lie
set forth by the book he was trashin'.
Now these two happened to meet
out in the square of the street
outrage from both sides
divided their tribes;
learned against faith took their feet
yet nothing will change minds any less;
a shouting match just making a mess
people dig in
proving THEIR win
eager to validate that for which they obsess
now if your mind you want to unfetter
desiring to make oneself better
appease noble need
go back and re-read
each line and take just the first letter.
[–]rashtastic 2 points3 points4 points 7 months ago
Good God Almighty
[–]argeaux 0 points1 point2 points 7 months ago
Ramen!
[–][deleted] 8 points9 points10 points 7 months ago
This thread is the best I have read, I suggest taking these ideas to head, Reading this argument, Has made me quite somnolent, Now off I will head to my bed.
[–]Algernon_AsimovAtheist, Secular Humanist 7 points8 points9 points 7 months ago
And, here's one we prepared earlier!
Seriously, I wrote this in another internet forum about a year ago. The theists and the atheists in that group were getting quite agitated. Then one of them turned to limericks (yes, we were that kind of a group!). Then another. So I add my two cents' worth:
Common ground?
‘Tween believers and atheists, I’ve found
that there really is no common ground.
What one calls good sense
is the other’s nonsense,
and the debate just goes round and round.
...
In discussion, I once asked he
who I was debating to point out to me
his proof of a God.
His reply was quite odd:
“The proof there’s a God is that tree.”
I sat there considering the proof
but I could not agree it was sooth.
I was really quite shocked
at this statement, it rocked
my whole perception of truth.
Here were both of us sharing this world,
and seeing the same tree he’d offered.
Yet where I saw mere fact,
he saw God in each act.
It stunned me beyond any words.
Our perceptions of reality
are shaped by our beliefs, don’t you see?
So, there’s really no point
getting all out of joint
when neither side can ever agree.
In conclusion, I’d like to point out
to those of you in any doubt:
this story, you see,
really happened to me.
Every word is true, all throughout.
It opened my mind to the ways
that our beliefs imbue all our days
with our own modes of thinkin’,
so there’s no hope of linkin’
the sayers of “Aye” with the “Nays”.
[–]rashtastic 6 points7 points8 points 7 months ago
This was a great thing to do. My stupidity would have shone through had this been my thread 'cause I would have said, "And now we all write in haiku!"
What is existence? Did God create all of this? I will ask Reddit.
[–]ADM1N1STRAT0RChristian, Ex-Agnostic 2 points3 points4 points 7 months ago
My friend, I've enjoyed our discussion, And it's regular sense of percussion, You can rhyme and Haiku, Two upvotes and adieu, May it all be of good repercussion.
[–]lemursteamerAtheist 1 point2 points3 points 7 months ago*
Perfect merciful
Genocidal lunatic
Bi-polar yahweh
[–]CyraEm 11 points12 points13 points 7 months ago*
I believe that our God is a potter Who works not in clay but saltwater. What Darwin describes Is what God has prescribed. As a primate, I'm proudly God's daughter. He started with empty, black, distance. On this plane He brought us to existence. What God spoke into light, So blinding and bright, Was the Big Bang. Piece de resistance.
[–]wazzel2u 10 points11 points12 points 7 months ago
There once was a Christian from school. He denied that we evolved from a pool. He said science was bunk it was by God he had thunk. Until he needed medicine then it was cool.
[–]everred 5 points6 points7 points 7 months ago
The problem with claiming that God Made everything you see as odd is that you cannot prove 'twas Jehovah's daft move 'stead of some other fellow named Zod.
[–]rlaw68 4 points5 points6 points 7 months ago
That first day was dark as the night
'Til God said "Let there be light"
But literal folks,
This must be a joke:
For the sun was nowhere in sight.
In fact, it took three more days
Until the warmth of its rays
Were conjured to set matters right.
Or so says the Bible
Which we know is reliable:
It needs only its own self to cite.
[–]ADM1N1STRAT0RChristian, Ex-Agnostic 1 point2 points3 points 7 months ago
You consider the story illogical, But assume that God works chronological! As to which happened "first," We're not deeply immersed, But the truth can be found theological.
[–]Gryndyl 2 points3 points4 points 7 months ago
In studying things thought mythologic
(and to the religions, quite tragic)
science has rendered humdrum
thousands of conundrums
and the answer has NEVER been magic.
[–]argeaux 2 points3 points4 points 7 months ago*
It seems you reside in the gaps, Claiming exceptions as facts, When reality doesn't sync With your collection of ink You have an intellect lapse. Yes evolution's a "theory", An ongoing scientific inquiry. But unlike creation, requiring mental sedation; Reality fits with it clearly.
[–]KAMalosh 2 points3 points4 points 7 months ago
You're correct that evolution's a theory
But I'm beginning to grow very weary
of people who think this
makes it a hypothesis
and don't understand the term, clearly
[–]Poogy 2 points3 points4 points 7 months ago
I once clicked a link most exciting,
where I saw opinions dividing.
But defending one's book
with faith so unshook,
means science won't change the abiding.
[–]bradwasheresoyeah 2 points3 points4 points 7 months ago
I once believed in fate
Until a saw a debate
Mutated lizards
Verses grumpy sky wizards
A little evidence is great
[–]iamwearingashirt 1 point2 points3 points 7 months ago*
from what i've read so far this is an origin debate much above par i'm happy to have read it here on the site reddit so keep up the good work in this word spar
(note: how do i make each sentence appear on a new line) (edit: fixed it, thanks)
[–]TheContrarian2 0 points1 point2 points 7 months ago
I obviously can't figure out that CR/LF either! Shift Enter doesn't do it.
Ahhh. Double CRs.
If each line you begin with four spaces, Then all your rhymes fit in their places, Because you can indent, With poetic intent, Lest your limericks make sour faces.
[–]Eelis- 1 point2 points3 points 7 months ago*
When man, his nature he finally knew Not proud, but frightened he grew! Reject it he did Would not believe it, His fault befitting primordial goo.
(Did I mention that as an added challenge I made it told by Yoda?)
There once was a sky monster named Grupp
Who pored the world out from a cup
Call that absurd?
Without science's word
We just end up making crap up
[–]itp757 1 point2 points3 points 7 months ago
people who believe in creation; probably look down on masturbation; so if you're here; i hate to break to you dear; the internet shouldn't be your destination
[–]kg959Christian, Old Earth Creationist[S] 3 points4 points5 points 7 months ago
Your conjecture just seems rather weak But it's not a debate that you seek For you offer no facts So your argument lacks And my interests you have failed to peak
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 7 months ago
Evolution has many gaps you say
And what might those be, pray
In books, scientific journals and museums
you may find the comprehensive evidence
if you bother to read or leave your residence
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 7 months ago
Your cult was invented by saps
Your bible is quite full of crap
Your religion a manacle,
Your lord quite tyrannical
A laughable god of the gaps.
[–]pinballwizard420 1 point2 points3 points 7 months ago*
All of you shut your mouths tight,
Nobodys converting tonight,
All minds are made up
So you'll find them quite shut
It's an uphill, impossible fight.
Human psychology proves it
Belief is just too strong to lose it
People will look
For the fact or the book
That best confirms bias and use it
The faithful need not fact or reason
For typically these are not pleasin'
To throw you a bone
They must change on their own
Learning facts because critics are heathens.
[–]horseyhorseyhorsey -1 points0 points1 point 7 months ago
there once was a scientist called frank
who wasn't terribly good at limericks.
he challenged the existing rules
put forward mostly by religious fools
and won the nobel prize for phys-er-ics.
[–]Helen_A_Handbasket -12 points-11 points-10 points 7 months ago
Here's the creationist version:
God god god god god god god god
god god god god god god god god.
God god god god god
God god god god god god god god!
[–]JohnSmallBerries 6 points7 points8 points 7 months ago
FLAWLESS scansion.
[–]TheContrarian2 -1 points0 points1 point 7 months ago
From "nothing" the universe dawned.
From "nothing" new life was then spawned.
When something from "nothing"
is taught by the left wing
then tears can be heard from beyond.
[–]MackieDrew 0 points1 point2 points 7 months ago
You don't seem to know what your saying.
I'm not going to take this down-laying.
Nothing says things came from a void, your premise is simply destroyed.
Nothing says things came from a void,
your premise is simply destroyed.
Hopefully your opinion is swaying.
Your faith has stopped you from thinking,
You claim god created the world by blinking.
Believe all these lies they've been seeding, your position is just special pleading.
Believe all these lies they've been seeding,
your position is just special pleading.
If you believe you must've be drinking.
Why must a god have created,
his origin story is still awaited.
Occam prepares his blade, gods need seems to fade.
Occam prepares his blade,
gods need seems to fade.
And that's just not how the earth has been dated.
[–]FundiFlawed -1 points0 points1 point 7 months ago
There once was a man performed magic,
whose political dream was fantastic
But now that he's gone, they've remembered it wrong,
now isn't that somewhat tragic?
[–]Raptor-Llama -1 points0 points1 point 7 months ago
I note many seem to trust in science,
Though I must say it may not be reliant,
As Neutrino shows
Einstein's theory goes
Obsolete as it seems to defy it
So may it be wise to put faith in the word?
God inspired it as a direction to turn
Rock solid it stands
And no changes be had
Unlike science, which changes as a fire burns.
(I do seem quite weak at rhyming these, and pacing may be horrifying cheese, but may I say to turn away, and instead focus on the main lead.)
[–]rashtastic 3 points4 points5 points 7 months ago*
The process, you see, does not end Our theories we constantly mend. But faith, you can show, has no way to know to falseness or truth does it tend.
We debate evolution all day, But it serves to give athiests play, To continue refrain, That faith is in vain, As if they could explain God away!
[–]bradwasheresoyeah 1 point2 points3 points 7 months ago
When I hit the age of twenty
I saw this debate aplenty
If someone attacks
You'll just move all the facts
Because the concept of God is empty
Yet your Paleo-science does fail,
When "show me the bones" we would hail,
Unstudied they are,
Your discoveries afar,
Sequestered as if they're in jail.
What claims such scientific diction Can so often be put down to fiction Apes in parade Of a bipedal grade Unsupported, but popular piction Hoaxes and scams put aside Is there scientific evidence inside? The idea one drew Another makes true And "seems right" is the only guide.
[–]bruisermanAtheist, Ex-Christian -3 points-2 points-1 points 7 months ago*
To argue evolution a theory
and to become quite a bit leery
means a definition of theory you lack
for this theory is actually a fact
. . .
Theories are constantly tested
to see if they can be bested
continually questioned and tried
passing every challenge in stride
This misinformation must stop
for a hypothesis a theory is not
to treat is as such, is misrepresenting so much
that the argument becomes a complete flop.
[–]Matt_SF -1 points0 points1 point 7 months ago
Creationists practice the psychology of bliss
Yet by scripture we're all cousins allowed to kiss Thanks to Adam and Eve We're all related you see So how dare science interrupt their CogDis
[–]herbalot -1 points0 points1 point 7 months ago
We got scared This video will change your life
[–]isyourlisteningbroke -5 points-4 points-3 points 7 months ago
The fuck?
I started believing in Evolution about the time I actually understood what caused my brother's Down's Syndrome.
It's cool if you want to refrain from accepting though. Faith has just as many gaps as a theory as evolution. That's what caused me to stop bothering.
[–]ansabhailte -2 points-1 points0 points 7 months ago*
Tis a peculiar thing to be seen
That evolution here seems the mean
From darwinist atheists
to evolutionary creationists
where are the 'short earths' like me?
edit: thanks rashtastic!
The answer is easy for you- Instead of just one, do two In your keyboard's center, Just Double-tap 'Enter' And format your limericks anew.
Does anyone here know how
many human features, like the brow
never cease to grow,
so scientifically so,
our "ancestors" were the centuries-old of long ago?
[–]BlunderLikeARicochet -2 points-1 points0 points 7 months ago*
If lonely is your attitude There's plenty of like-minded fools In churches and mosques Temples and synagogues But fewer, the nearer a school.
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[–]GeneReplicator 8 points9 points10 points 7 months ago
Your prose is actually quite fine Line after informative line But limericks are what we are doing And our fun you are thus poo-poohing So your downvotes now include one of mine.
[–][deleted] -3 points-2 points-1 points 7 months ago
Not an English major... huh... That's like saying that you would have posted this under an appropriate non-limerick thread, but you're not a computer science major, so...
all it takes is a username and password
create account
is it really that easy? only one way to find out...
already have an account and just want to login?
login
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