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[–]cyborg_selkie我住在深圳. 10 points11 points ago*

I live in Shenzhen. There's not much culture but it's an interesting city if you're into cyberpunk.

Here's some things to do:

  • Get a metro card. The metro system was just expanded and is now pretty useful. Get 100 Yuan, stick it though the gap in the window next to the turnstile. They'll probably assume you are a hapless foreigner and guess that you want a card without having to speak Chinese. If this doesn't work, say "dìtiě kǎ" when you do this.

  • Go to Dafen painting village. Dafen is a village in Longgang where you can buy painting reproductions, or commission copies of the photo of your choice for fairly cheap. Even if you don't want to buy anything it's fun to wander around there for an afternoon. Apparently this place is the biggest producer of replicas in the world.

  • Hike Wutong Mountain. It's the tallest mountain in Shenzhen. A girl I tutored saw a wild pangolin there.

  • Eat at Pizza Hut The Pizza Huts in China are actually good. Seriously, ask anyone.

  • Eat at Redang Island Asia Cafe. Awesome, cheap Malaysian food. You can find their address and phone number here. The mango fish is AMAZING. They do takeaway and the owner and one of the servers speak English; if you live in Futian and know your address give them a call.

  • Do a language exchange. Post an ad on ShenzhenParty.com asking to trade English for Mandarin for two months.

  • Wander through Lotus Hill Park Pretty, large park in the center of town, at Children's Palace metro station. Worth a trip.

  • Get something tailored. There's a big shopping center called Louhu commercial city located at Louhu metro station/the Louhu border crossing. There are tons of tailors there.

  • Go to Hua Qiang Bei Electronics Market. You can buy anything electronic-related here: phones, computers, tvs, ipad covers, satnav, components, cameras, etc. You have to fight for a good deal though, haggle hard and take your time. Watch out for fakes. There's a little market behind a building selling women's clothing where my S.O. gets discounted rolling tobacco. Lots of good restaurants around there too.

  • Go to Hong Kong, Guangzhou, and Macau. There are several ways to get into Hong Kong. I recommend either Futian checkpoint or the ferry from Shekou. The Futian checkpoint is clean, new-ish, and you can get on the Hong Kong mtr (metro) immediately after crossing into Hong Kong. If you take the mtr from there it takes about an hour to get to Hong Kong island. Make sure to get to the Futian checkpoint early on weekends as it can get pretty busy. The Shekou ferry can get you to Kowloon or the airport. It's less busy than the Futian checkpoint but Shekou is a long way from Futian (a 60 yuan-ish cab fare) and it costs 100-ish yuan to ride the ferry. You go to the same port to get a ferry to Macau. You can take a bullet train to Guangzhou that takes an hour.

People talk about crime in Shenzhen, but it's really not that bad. There's lots of organized crime, but unless you're dealing in human trafficking that shouldn't effect you. I've never had anything stolen and have lived in Shenzhen for over a year. One thing to avoid is leaving your valuables on your table in Starbucks while ordering or going to the bathroom -apparently it's pretty common and I know someone who lost her purse that way.

[–]Godmother[S] 0 points1 point ago*

Awesome list *Lady! Thank you VERY MUCH! I am not sure I understood about the language exchange though... Is that a learning site or something like it? Also, you mean I can get something made especially for me in Louhu? That would be amazing!

And no, I am not dealing human beings, so I think I will be fine! =D Edit for gender!

[–]cyborg_selkie我住在深圳. 1 point2 points ago

I am not sure I understood about the language exchange though... Is that a learning site or something like it?

A language exchange is when you learn a language from someone who wants to learn your language. Instead of money changing hands (like if you were being tutored) you swap languages. It's a good way to meet people and learn something.

ShenzhenParty is just an expats site that has free classified ads. There's a language section in the classifieds were you can ask if anyone wants to be your language partner.

Also, you mean I can get something made especially for me in Louhu?

Yep. You can pick something out of a magazine and they will make it for you. Make sure you get it done early, as it usually takes about two weeks to make (you can pay more to get it made faster). In Louhu Commercial City, there are a bunch of tailors on the forth or fifth floor.

[–]Godmother[S] 0 points1 point ago

And what about the cyberpunk stuff? I like the style and everything - never really went inside the culture though - but I would like to know more. What is there to do?

[–]bigrocco⌂ USA ✈ Foshan 0 points1 point ago

All winners, good tips.

[–]mthmchris⌂ Pittsburgh ✈ Shenzhen 1 point2 points ago

Seems like we're in the same neighborhood - Shuiwei, right? Let's grab a beer at a Kaoba sometime.

Otherwise, good list. Agreed on pretty much everything, expect about Pizza Hut (Pizza Hut is terrible here!) and I'd argue that Redang is nice if you're in the neighborhood, but not necessarily a 'destination' restaurant.

[–]AsizoCali - Shenzhen 2 points3 points ago

Don't trust this guy. Pizza is good.

[–]mthmchris⌂ Pittsburgh ✈ Shenzhen 5 points6 points ago

Hoodlum. Pizza Hut in China is universally accepted to be awful.

For real, the pizza at the Intercontinental in Nanshan is pretty good.

[–]cyborg_selkie我住在深圳. 1 point2 points ago

Haven't tried it. NYPD is tasty, but I know quite a few people who've become disgustingly ill after eating their pizza, myself included. It was shut down during the Universaide (sp?) and there was a sign on x-pats saying they couldn't serve pizza because NYPD was shut down by health inspectors, but it re-opened after the games were over.

[–]cyborg_selkie我住在深圳. 1 point2 points ago

Even if some may think the pizza at Chinese pizza huts is bad the OP should still go to a Pizza Hut for the cultural experience. Chinese pizza hut is China-fied American food in the same way Chinese food is Americanized in the states.

I personally think Rendang is the shit. But, taste is subjective I suppose.

And while I feel like an idiot admitting this on the internet, yes, I do live in Shuiwei. If you see a white female with long brown hair and a big grey bag, that's me.

[–]Godmother[S] 0 points1 point ago

Yes! Yes million times! Since I think that this will be a one-chance opportunity, I will definately try everything I can lay my hands on. I am a food person, and absolutely love to try different stuff!

[–]magkaser -1 points0 points ago

Pizza Hut is both terrible AND overpriced here. I always thought Papa John's was more acceptable in China, but still pretty blech.

But hell, if you're in Shenzhen you can just hop over to HK for the day and get fantastic pizza at reasonable prices made by people who actually know how to make it!

[–]mthmchris⌂ Pittsburgh ✈ Shenzhen 0 points1 point ago

Paisano's, anyone?

[–]Godmother[S] 0 points1 point ago

I dont like Pizza Hut in Brazil either, but I will give it a shot anyway!

[–]polyonymy 3 points4 points ago

"You can buy anything."

[–]bikerholic 2 points3 points ago

M/F and age please. The advise for a 18yr girl is different from advise for 29yr men.

[–]Godmother[S] 0 points1 point ago

I am a 27yo female. Any changes in advice?

[–]bikerholic 0 points1 point ago

Oh yeah. Shopping, sightseeing and Spa.

Shopping - There are plenty of knockoff store/place in and around the train station. Bargaining is a must, you should start off with return offer at 25% of their initial price. Overall the quality of the clothing isn't too far off. If you prefer name brand. You're sure to have a sticker shock, the prices is more than what we pay in the State. I saw a pair of Lamborghini leather shoes listed at $4600 RMB. Needless to say, we ran pretty quickly.

Sightseeing - Redditor cyborg_selkei have some very wonderful recommendations.

Spa - Non sexual Spa is quite popular in Shenzhen, prices range from $90 for 4hrs to $300 RMB (including tips) for the entire visit. If you like to enjoy a good body/foot massage and spent a few hours. There are plenty of Spa company representative (in uniform) near the exit of the train (to HK) station. Service is good but best bring a local friend who can guide you and translate for you. I took my wife with me to visit a Spa last year, it was a stone throw away (<0.10 mile) from the train station. Together we spend $260 RMB for 3hours, tips included.

Macau and HK are both great places to visit, but shopping can be pricy.

Tips - Please try not to walk around in the late evening. Always planned your route, especially with return trip to the hotel. Keep a card with your hotel name and address printed in Chinese on you at all time. Otherwise, just have fun and enjoy your stay.

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[–]cleansanchez 2 points3 points ago

Viva is in Futian

[–]cyborg_selkie我住在深圳. 1 point2 points ago

Not a huge club person, but I'm pretty sure there are two Vivas, one in Shekou and one in Futian.

[–]zhenxing⌂ 奥地利 ✈ Shenzhen 0 points1 point ago*

Also, if you're really into going out, Asia's (supposedly) biggest club has just opened in Shenzhen. It's called Evening Show and is close to the Exhibition Centre.

[–]Godmother[S] 0 points1 point ago

I was told to go to Manlada bar... familiar?

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[–]Godmother[S] 0 points1 point ago

Apparently its near the hotel I will be staying and yes, Coastal City. I was told that its a place where I can have a good beer and have a nice time. I am not a club person as well, I rather sit and talk than the loud electronic music.

[–]pearlysoames⌂ Houston ✈ Shenzhen 2 points3 points ago

Interests? Age? M/F? I've lived here for about 6 months and had a great time.

[–]Godmother[S] 1 point2 points ago

I am a 27yo female. I am interested in learning everything possible, and if possible to see an elephant. I adore elephants.

[–]riceagain⌂ New Zealand ✈ Beijing 2 points3 points ago

I remember that Shenzhen hairdressers don't know much about hair, nonetheless there are are hundred of little salons ;)

[–]lordnikkon⌂ Miami ✈ Beijing 2 points3 points ago

lol for those that dont know hairdressers are common fronts for brothels in china. Mostly because the low cost and requirements for getting a business license for a hairdresser. The government got wise to to brothels being disguised as massage parlors so they required more strict licenses and inspections to open a massage parlor but hairdressers only require a simple business license to open. If you ever see a salon with lots of girls but never anyone getting a hair cut now you understand why

[–]Godmother[S] 0 points1 point ago

I dont know if I would have a haircut, but I will probably pay attention to the salon now!

[–]lordnikkon⌂ Miami ✈ Beijing 0 points1 point ago

it will be completely obvious which salons are brothels, a normal salon even a bad one will always have at least 1 person getting there hair cut at any given time of day due to the number of people in big cities. But a fake salon will never have anyone getting there hair cut yet always have many girl, usually wearing mining skirts and other more revealing clothes. They will also be open in the middle of the night. As a matter of fact any store that is open past 12 and not selling booze or cigarettes is probably a brothel because the only thing a chinese person would get up in the middle of the night to buy are booze, cigarettes or women (in that order of priority)

[–]finral 1 point2 points ago

Watch your wallet! Seriously, Shenzhen is known as the city of thieves. Violent crime against foreigners is almost unheard of, but you will be a target for every pick pocket out there.

Dongmen is the best shopping place ever conceived, although it takes a little exploring to get out its juicy bits. Don't be afraid to haggle hard. You will probably be asked to be 5 or more times what something is worth. Bring lots of imodium and pepto, and then make sure to eat the street food, it is fantastic. Also get stuff tailored in the area, it is super cheap.

While there are not a lot of tourist sites in shenzhen, its not too far from other places. HongKong is a super easy subway ride away, as is Guangzhou. There are a few touristy things to do in Shenzhen, but none of them stick out as being that great (Minsk world - russian battleship turned weird museum thing, Windows of the world - all the worlds monuments in miniature - yay, I guess?). I am a big fan of Buji art village though. It is an art community slightly north of the city proper where artists make reproductions as well as original stuff. It is a cool weekend walk. Enjoy the food, for the love of god eat some Uyghur cuisine - its the best food I've ever had.

Try not to let the cultural differences stress you out, and have fun!

[–]bigrocco⌂ USA ✈ Foshan 2 points3 points ago

The Art Village is worth a stroll.

[–]Godmother[S] 1 point2 points ago

One of my trainees - which is a girl in her twenties - told me she would take me shopping and to do tourist stuff, and that she wouldnt let anyone fool me.

What is Uyghur cuisine? Thats something I never heard of!

[–]finral 1 point2 points ago

It is made by the muslim chinese from the Xinjiang region. The best stuff is the hand pulled noodle dishes. If you see someone in the street swinging dough around and pulling it into noodles, you'll know you have arrived at the right place. Also look for pictures of yaks on the outside of the restaurant, tends to be a pretty good indicator.

[–]cyborg_selkie我住在深圳. 0 points1 point ago

Uyghur food is awesome. It's very different from what you would normally think of as Chinese food. Lots of salty and savory lamb.

[–]mthmchris⌂ Pittsburgh ✈ Shenzhen 0 points1 point ago

I wrote this up before:

I honestly love living in Shenzhen - although if you're looking to escape the "Chinese experience", Shanghai is probably more up your alley.

That said, what I enjoy about Shenzhen is that it's got something for everybody - if you enjoy density, crowds, and endless malls, you can live in Luohu or Huaqiangbei. If you enjoy a quiet place with greenery and open space, you can live in Shekou or (even better) OCT. Personally, I love living in South Futian, with its super dense "villages" (old, crowded buildings remnant of before Shenzhen was a city) juxtaposed against the modern, gleaming CBD right across 滨海大道.

The Chinese food is excellent - best I've had anywhere outside of Guangzhou. Chinese people come from all over, so it's possible to get pretty authentic Sichuan food, Fujian food, Xinjiang food, etc. There's also some great Korean food (in Chegongmiao) and Japanese food (in Guomao), although Western food in pretty lacking outside of the five star hotels and one restaurant in Futian ("The Kitchen", if it had to be said).

Shenzhen doesn't really have any attractions to speak of, but the people I've found are some of the most open-minded and outward looking of anywhere in China.

I know I sort of sound like an advertisement, but it's honestly become my favorite city to live in in China. Much better than Beijing, at least.

One big downside is the expat community here - while it's getting better, it's still one of the scummiest I've seen in China. At least a plurality of people I've met here are single old men that get their kicks sleeping around with wide eyed Chinese girls half their age.

As to Hong Kong, I find it's usually a two-hour trip door to door to Hong Kong island from anywhere in south Futian. I don't do too many day trips - I'll usually spend the night in Hong Kong. I've had friends though that live right by the border in Huanggang, have a Z visa with a foreign expert permit (enabling you to apply for the border's e-card), and commute to Hong Kong (takes them around an hour).

On learning Mandarin in Shenzhen:

In Shenzhen, you'll be completely fine. Shenzhen is a city of migrants, and Mandarin is the lingua franca. In my opinion, Shenzhen is an excellent place to study Mandarin because you're forced to rub shoulders with accents from all over China. I wouldn't worry too much about the "purity" of your accent, because all of us outside of the Da Shans of the world have primarily a western accent, no matter how "标准" a Chinese person says it is :).

Outside of Shenzhen, the situation is in Guangdong is a little bit less clear. In Hong Kong, Mandarin is not only not spoken but also barely understood. Guangzhou would probably still be a fine place to learn Mandarin, but you'll hear much more Cantonese on the street. Outside of the major cities, it can be a little frustrating (everyone knows Mandarin, but often when people speak amongst their friends they'll switch to dialect, even if you're there).

In any event, Shenzhen is a great place to learn Putonghua. Honestly, I'd say that the two best cities in China to learn Chinese are (1) Beijing (of course, if just for the resources at your disposal) and (2) Shenzhen.

On someone saying that they bet Shenzhen is "one of the most modern cities on earth":

I'm sorry, I love living here, but I gotta stop that perception in its tracks. Shenzhen is still mainland China. It is undoubtedly one of the most modern cities in China, but don't expect it to be akin to the Tokyos, Singapores, Hong Kongs, and Seouls of the world. I would venture it is roughly as modern as Beijing. The big difference is that in Beijing modernity and development is driven by the government and/or foreign companies, while in Shenzhen it's driven much moreso by private Chinese companies (there's plenty of foreign investment here, but alot of it is manufacturing related. There's not the foreign retail influence like there is in e.g. Shanghai).

In terms of density, it really depends where you are in Shenzhen. Downtown Luohu district is roughly as dense as Manhattan, while where's you're going to be studying in Xili has an almost suburban feel (on that note, since you're living in Nanshan, I'd recommended you get the number of a reliable 'black cab'. You'll save money on taxis and get the added convenience of being picked up - taxis can at times be a pain to hail in Nanshan).

Crime is not a problem, especially in the area where you'll be living. I've never heard of any crime in Shenzhen outside of economic 'crimes' (all of which are much more loosely enforced in Shenzhen than other cities... e.g. street vendors, prostitution, illegal real estate development, etc.) and, of course, pickpocketing.

[–]varietygamer 1 point2 points ago

It's the prostitution capital of China. Bring plenty of high quality condoms.

[–]Godmother[S] 0 points1 point ago

If I had a dick, I certainly would! ;)

[–]varietygamer 0 points1 point ago

You don't need a dick, bring them anyway ;)

[–]Godmother[S] 0 points1 point ago

Hahaha! Okay, but I dont think I'll want a male escort while I'm there. My husband would not appreciate this idea very much.

[–]varietygamer 0 points1 point ago

Bring along your husband.

[–]Godmother[S] 0 points1 point ago

It's a business trip. Also, vacations from the husband!

[–]cyborg_selkie我住在深圳. 0 points1 point ago

What about Dongguan?

[–]varietygamer 0 points1 point ago

My knowledge does not extend to this city.

[–]KidAReckoner 0 points1 point ago

I've spent a lot of time in Dongguan. Stay away. It's a dump of a city. The one major road where there is some semblance of nightlife is dubbed "bar street". Crawling with whores.

[–]lordnikkon⌂ Miami ✈ Beijing 1 point2 points ago

A good expat website to check out is shenzhen party Shenzhen has really gotten a lot better since the universiade last year, they expanded the subway and cleaned up a lot of areas.

Avoid the area near the train station/HK border it is full of prostitutes and scam artists, there are also a high number of pickpockets in shenzhen compared to other cities in china but china is relatively very safe.

Dont forget to travel around to nearby cities both guangzhou and zhuhai can be reached in 1 hour by train and boat respectively. As well as Hong kong and macau if you are from a country that does not require visas to visit, which is most countries developed countries.

[–]cleansanchez -1 points0 points ago

Skip Guangzhou.. quite possibly the worst city in China or even the world. Not sure why this guy would even suggest it.

[–]mthmchris⌂ Pittsburgh ✈ Shenzhen 6 points7 points ago

Guangzhou is quite possibly my favorite city in China... I really dislike when people judge a city based off of a day or so by the train station.

Food is probably the best in China (Hong Kong included), the old area is huge and immensely walkable, there's nice parks, and the air quality is definitely worlds better than either Beijing or Shanghai.

[–]Benthetraveler⌂ Germany ✈ Beijing 2 points3 points ago

Care to elaborate? I have heard good things about Guangzhou in the past..

[–]cyborg_selkie我住在深圳. 4 points5 points ago

Guangzhou is like Shenzhen but grittier and with history. The historical sites are what redeem it, IMO.

[–]cleansanchez -2 points-1 points ago

There is nothing redeeming about Guangzhou. It's ugly, boring, difficult to travel around, terrible air quality, old, lousy bars, lots of criminals (they even have criminals from Russia and Africa!), nothing to do, etc.

Perhaps you heard this from someone who only went to the Canton Fair and they had a more or less ok time in spite of the above, but that doesn't mean it's a good place to visit, assuming OP has finite free time.

[–]loller⌂ 魔多 ✈ 上海 5 points6 points ago

I found Guangzhou to be a very depressing place to walk around. I also didn't enjoy it. I've been there three times and each time I see more and more to bolster my resolve to never return.